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#1981
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There was a basic psych eval for those of us hired pre-9/11. As well as the majority of the astronaut physical. X-rays, cog tests, hearing, computerized psych. All the good stuff. The merged Eagles did not have to deal with it, only the people hired by AMR directly to Eagle. The only thing we didn't have to do was get the butt poke like a few years before.
They just saved bending us over for several years later.
They just saved bending us over for several years later.
#1982
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Myself along with hundreds of other Captains here can't get a (Legacy) interview despite checking all the boxes, multiple type ratings, perfect training records, volunteering, good GPA's, way more flight time and experience than these quick upgrade chasers, stacks of internal recs, and playing all the job fair games to boot. HR is in control of hiring these days. Turbine PIC isn't as important as "other" things now. Better hope you can appease whatever some 23 year old Human Resource major pulling apps who knows zip about aviation thinks, and hope your Airline Apps algorithm calculation triggers the right parameters to not be rejected outright. Oops, took 5 years to get your degree? Too bad for you. No chance to explain. Longer than 10 years at a regional? Untrainable, and Unacceptable. Non Tier 1 candidate. No chance to explain. NEXT.
The people chasing PIC time haven't realized it yet that the magic 1,000 TPIC isn't the golden ticket to the big 3 like they were told it was. I'd take the flow any day over waiting for that phone call that likely may never happen.
#1983
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There was a basic psych eval for those of us hired pre-9/11. As well as the majority of the astronaut physical. X-rays, cog tests, hearing, computerized psych. All the good stuff. The merged Eagles did not have to deal with it, only the people hired by AMR directly to Eagle.
Carl Smith and the Hershey Kiss hair collector guy certainly fell through the cracks. Although I hear Carl was sent packing for something.
Now you can be a complete nut job and get hired though. No questions asked.
#1984
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So where would you recommend a new pilot go to? Clearly you think PIC is the pathway to delta and United so I'm curious as to where you would recommend a new hire go to, since apparently you have no confidence in a pilot getting pic at envoy and you also seem to believe an envoy pilot can't get on with United or delta and instead must wait around for a flow.
#1985
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I was referring to you as the resident nut job. Not the psychopath BTW. Lol
#1986
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Hey, I don't care and have no problem admitting it. I know AA won't hire me OTS. Not a military pilot, or CP or a Female, or a Fleet manager, or a recruiter, or an *** kisser, or a son of a special case. Good thing for the flow or I would probably never get a job at AA in a domicile I want, despite thousands of hours of PIC. That is kinda the whole point of why we like the flow and tell people its a good thing to have in your back pocket. For when the reality of hiring practices at a Legacy sets in.
Myself along with hundreds of other Captains here can't get a (Legacy) interview despite checking all the boxes, multiple type ratings, perfect training records, volunteering, good GPA's, way more flight time and experience than these quick upgrade chasers, stacks of internal recs, and playing all the job fair games to boot. HR is in control of hiring these days. Turbine PIC isn't as important as "other" things now. Better hope you can appease whatever some 23 year old Human Resource major pulling apps who knows zip about aviation thinks, and hope your Airline Apps algorithm calculation triggers the right parameters to not be rejected outright. Oops, took 5 years to get your degree? Too bad for you. No chance to explain. Longer than 10 years at a regional? Untrainable, and Unacceptable. Non Tier 1 candidate. No chance to explain. NEXT.
The people chasing PIC time haven't realized it yet that the magic 1,000 TPIC isn't the golden ticket to the big 3 like they were told it was. I'd take the flow any day over waiting for that phone call that likely may never happen.
Myself along with hundreds of other Captains here can't get a (Legacy) interview despite checking all the boxes, multiple type ratings, perfect training records, volunteering, good GPA's, way more flight time and experience than these quick upgrade chasers, stacks of internal recs, and playing all the job fair games to boot. HR is in control of hiring these days. Turbine PIC isn't as important as "other" things now. Better hope you can appease whatever some 23 year old Human Resource major pulling apps who knows zip about aviation thinks, and hope your Airline Apps algorithm calculation triggers the right parameters to not be rejected outright. Oops, took 5 years to get your degree? Too bad for you. No chance to explain. Longer than 10 years at a regional? Untrainable, and Unacceptable. Non Tier 1 candidate. No chance to explain. NEXT.
The people chasing PIC time haven't realized it yet that the magic 1,000 TPIC isn't the golden ticket to the big 3 like they were told it was. I'd take the flow any day over waiting for that phone call that likely may never happen.
#1987
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I read both descriptions in a single response that appeared to solely describe me. If I'm not the psychopath, who is and while were at it, could you quantify the difference between the two diagnosis, Doctor ?
#1988
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You seem to care way too much about what regional pilots on APC think of you, which I don't understand. Hence why you feel the need to respond to everyone's post.
#1989
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VERY few concern themselves with me aside from about a half dozen or so at Envoy. You seem to care WAY too much about me, which I don't understand, hence why you feel the need to constantly engage me. If you and your pals didn't do that, I'd have 1/4 of the posts in this partition then I do now. But then of course,............you'd have far less to complain about and we know that doesn't work for you.
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