"It's a fact". In order for it to be a fact, you need some sort of proof. It is impossible to prove unequivocally that envoy is "becoming one of the top places to be". It is permanently subjective.

If you are going to jump into the fray with a few sentences, try not to look stupid.

Speaking of facts though, I see some facts posted about the current situation at envoy, and then some calling names. Who are the children here? As much as you try to misdirect away from the actual facts, the more resolve the truthsayers seem to have.

 

Yeah, it's not him. The DC guy didn't have a sense of humor and was more pedantic. He also wasn't a spammer and didn't spread rumors.

 

I can tell you I'm not going anywhere. As long as these pro company morons are here carrying on with their drivel, I'll be here shouting the truth from the rooftops. Envoy is a bottom feeder regional.

 

It could be true, I am not sure when the next class is, but until butts are in the seats it's not possible to count the chickens, ya know? I prefer to stick with the facts as they are right now.

 

I'm a "spammer" ? LOL !

Considering what some of you guys bombard the forum with, you must have major investment in Hormel. As for rumors, most of the upgrade and flow projections fall into that category, but it's no surprise your view is through Envoy colored glasses.

 

Do point out where I agreed with any of the company's projections without a big "if" attached. Please. And don't lump me in with anyone here, I am more than capable of my own thoughts.

You are completely useless. The same retorts. The same arguments. The same snide remarks. You might actually have something to contribute if didn't continuously bury it beneath piles of tripe.

 

You'll note I said "some of you guys"........well, obviously, you didn't. I'm sure you are capable of that, but when you join in parroting and validating inapplicable silliness about me like claims I am the spammer considering the opposing salesmen which your criticisms toward have been and still are silent, what is one to think ? Your post that "talked" to me out of the side of your face was met with equal response and yet you are surprised and annoyed ?

Brother, I know how you feel.

I think you're smarter then your series of endless (and mindless) errors that your emotion leads you to regarding me and if you could only apply your criticisms equally toward those who dish out endless tripe in the opposite direction instead of showing consistent bias in ignorance of that, perhaps you'd be taken more seriously. Those who engage me with serious discussion/debate of issues get serious consideration. Those who endlessly run to the Alamo for warm fuzzies, will always be treated in accordance with what they produce;

Tripe.

 

Understood. In reading the fresh ALPA Envoy blast, it appeared pretty scathing regarding the situation there and on multiple fronts. I suppose maybe they are just a disgruntled extreme minority and things really aren't that bad as some of the tripesters here are claiming.

Unfortunately though, when "facts" don't serve the interests of some, efforts are made to attack the messengers for when bankrupt of valid rebuttal, what is left to do ? The Alamo must have an endless Blatz beer spring hidden in the center.

 

You mean as long as you stay unemployed you'll continue to envoy bash? Envoy has its faults, but it's not a bottom feeder.

 

Professionalism, integrity, and character, should be higher on this forum than some of you are displaying. Let's grow up and behave like the adult professionals many of you aspire to be, both offline & ONLINE!

Stop behaving like little kids and calling each other names & fighting! My goodness!!! Grow up guys & gals!

Embarrassing!!!

Keywords...Temperament, Character, Humility, Relax, Dust It Off, Move On, Ignore, Professionalism in the light as in the dark!

EACH and EVERY 1 OF YOU NEED TO BE THE BIGGER PERSON.

Thanks,

Long time Lurker.....