Originally Posted by highflyer1980

There's something really, really wrong with the world when corporations don't value their employees and honor agreements bargained in good faith. I know I am probably just barking up a tree and not able to make a difference, but it really gets under my skin that we are expected to operate at such a high standard with integrity and clear conscience. To operate safely, and to remove ourselves from the equation when necessary. The double standard at this corporation is deafening and is full of hypocrisy. Safety number one.... (At their convenience)

Has anyone else asked why for the delay codes they don't have one for pilot preflight duties? We get called out on doing what we are supposed to do and then get psychologically manipulated into doing what we are not supposed to do. To cut corners, to get the flight out on-time.

Morale is low. Corporate morals are abusive in nature. It's been getting worse and nothing is being done. Not even our union will stand up to this.

Originally Posted by citxls

Nothing will change with DUI Douggie at the helm. I feel bad for all my buddies still at Envoy who are waiting out in hopes of the flow.

Also want to add that I completely disagree with it being a night and day difference between AA and Envoy work environments. Every captain I knew who flowed said yes the training is better, less stressful but the AAG bs still runs rancid. Ain't much better over there.

Originally Posted by cr700

Let me encourage you to submit your app as soon as possible. Envoy is hiring in large numbers right now and you'll do much better to get in early and have people coming in behind you.

Envoy is receiving new state of the art Embraer 175 aircraft each month and is being positioned to be the premiere regional carrier in the U.S. Envoy also flies the CRJ-700 and the Embraer 145. As an all jet carrier, you will not have to fly a turboprop here. You stand a very good chance to be flying the 175 if you can get in very soon.

Things are looking up at Envoy. Management just announced that all of the Embraer 145 aircraft currently flying at Expressjet will be returned to Envoy in early 2017. This means more flying, more new hires and more Captain slots. We also are looking at Embraer 175 options. American would like to place up to 90 additional 175's at Envoy. You can imagine what this would do to your seniority.

As you may be aware, Envoy has the most robust flow program in the industry. Essentially, we are hiring you as an AA pilot from day one. You can expect to work for Envoy for about 6 years before transitioning over to American Airlines. This is a no interview, no medical flow. Essentially, you are transferring from one department to another.

Disregard any negativity you see here about Envoy. It's from disgruntled ex employees and others who don't even work here and are likely working at a regional with no flow and no future. Envoy has a very bright future and the lifestyle here is similar to one that you would transition into at AA.

Originally Posted by Jetunderwing

On this forum if you choose the jet under wing time, the shiny new jet, or hope to come to Envoy for a flow your unintelligent. Most people on this forum want you to take the 145 or the crj and take reserve because thats what they had to endure. If they had to endure 12-15 months on reserve 3 plus years ago, you need at least 16 months reserve to make it fair to them. They dont want your QOL to be any better than theres ever was as thats not "fair".
I got hired into a new airplane, again could choose whatever I wanted and you will hear the anger on here as I and other new hires didnt choose the airplane with terrible QOL. On this forum you will see the flow is snake oil. Make your own decision about it. There is a flow, theres also zero pilots, there probably stands a reason AAG wants a flow for the future regardless what it is today or what it was for the Envoy pilots hired 3-7 years ago when there was an abundance of pilots.

Any new hire who hears the anger on here just remember they want you to have a harder, longer, tougher road than they had. The fact the regional industry is in the gutter and you can get whatever you want as a new regional pilot now infuriates them. Come to Envoy or go to another regional, and get the most you can out of it you can.

Originally Posted by TrueNorth

Does anyone know the hour mins for upgrade? 1,000 hrs with the company or something along those lines? I searched through the contract and couldn't find anything. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84

3,000 hours total time (company rule) and 1,000 Part 121 SIC (FAA rule)

Originally Posted by TrueNorth

Cool, thanks for the reply.

Originally Posted by PilotJ3

Also every hour with the company it counts for two.