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Old 07-01-2016 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by boiler07
I expected this response from you. But rather than engaging in a battle of "I know you are but what am I", I'll let everyone else look at your posts and decide who's doing what. I'm sure ag et al will take your side though, so at leasts you've got that going for you.
You do that. If it gets you through the night, I'm all for it. Everyone here will choose whatever they want to do in considering my posts and yours.

I can live with that.
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Old 07-02-2016 | 05:59 AM
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Retention bonus was extended to NH from March 2 - June 30th.

Also those that got less than 15k bonus this year will get the difference of their bonuses.

Vacancy bid out:

55 ORD E-175 CA
55 ORD E-175 FO
20 ORD E-145 FO


Expect the upgrade get down to Early-Mid 2010 hires.
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Old 07-02-2016 | 06:28 AM
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That's great news! How did you hear about the bonus being paid to the newhires who didn't get the 15k?


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Old 07-02-2016 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane
That's great news! How did you hear about the bonus being paid to the newhires who didn't get the 15k?


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Old 07-02-2016 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Inclined plane
That's great news! How did you hear about the bonus being paid to the newhires who didn't get the 15k?


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It was an ALPA email.
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Old 07-02-2016 | 07:14 AM
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It's being reported on EL that there is a newsblast out stating not to expect to flow 30 per month for the remainder of the year, even after the deferrals are complete.

Can't say I'm surprised. I thought it would take a bit longer for this to start happening. Originally I said late this year.

With the latest flurry of bonuses extended and retro to those hired earlier in the year, it's apparent that the company is truly in desperation mode and are starting to fling cash in different directions to stop the bleeding. As we all know, it's way too little and too late.
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Old 07-02-2016 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ag386
It's being reported on EL that there is a newsblast out stating not to expect to flow 30 per month for the remainder of the year, even after the deferrals are complete.

Can't say I'm surprised. I thought it would take a bit longer for this to start happening. Originally I said late this year.

With the latest flurry of bonuses extended and retro to those hired earlier in the year, it's apparent that the company is truly in desperation mode and are starting to fling cash in different directions to stop the bleeding. As we all know, it's way too little and too late.
That doesn't mean the flow is being violated numb nuts. Envoy still gets 50% of all new hire classes, and has exceeded that so far. American is not planning on hiring as many due to AAG capacity reductions in the fall. Also nowhere did it state "even after the deferrals are complete"

"We have also been told to expect the flow numbers to increase later in the year, but are unlikely to reach 30 a month due to expected AAG capacity reductions in the fall."
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Old 07-02-2016 | 07:45 AM
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So any new hire that wants ORD E175 can probably get it now. This fleet will be extremely junior on the FO side as it will be pretty much all new hires and a few base transfers. Current FO's on other equipment can't bid it.

New hires that take it will be holding lines right away and be senior in that seat almost immediately. Sucks big time for our other FO's already here.. But benefits a new hire, thats for sure.
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Old 07-02-2016 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HobGoblin
That doesn't mean the flow is being violated numb nuts. Envoy still gets 50% of all new hire classes, and has exceeded that so far. American is not planning on hiring as many due to AAG capacity reductions in the fall. Also nowhere did it state "even after the deferrals are complete"

"We have also been told to expect the flow numbers to increase later in the year, but are unlikely to reach 30 a month due to expected AAG capacity reductions in the fall."
You are correct that it does not say after the deferrals are complete. However, that will almost certainly change after the 824.

Do all of you company water carriers always make lemonade out of lemons? I sure hope you like drinking it. The company brings in lemons to you guys by the truckload.

Expect zero flows in December and not 30 per month because of "capacity reduction."

Look at the very first page of this post by Skyvector. Envoy is flowing 300 this year and 750 over the next two years alone.
Pie in the sky numbers then.

Pie on the sky numbers now.
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Old 07-02-2016 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ag386
You are correct that it does not say after the deferrals are complete. However, that will almost certainly change after the 824.
Their selling point is the flow, and many FOs and CAs are staying for the flow. Meter the flow to save a few a month and you will have people jumping ship to any crap hole operations such as allegiant or the like. Stopping the flow would be suicide.

There are plenty of things wrong with this company, don't get me wrong. But why you get off on constantly trashing it, exaggerating and outright lying I have no idea. You don't even work here man, get a life.
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