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Old 07-04-2016, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
To be clear it sounds as if 2 pilots got an additional $5K for $20K total (before taxes). Isn't it wonderful when a union is so impotent, they have no control of what the company pays their supposedly represented pilots ?
At this point...who cares? It always being like that. Get them money and they will come.

I'm pretty sure they offered the money before everybody picked the planes. Two smart guys that got around 3k more after taxes.
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Old 07-04-2016, 04:33 PM
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At this point...who cares? It always being like that. Get them money and they will come.

I'm pretty sure they offered the money before everybody picked the planes. Two smart guys that got around 3k more after taxes.
Well, I think it's a bit premature to associate 2 pilots who get another $3K after taxes with the conclusion "they will come". Let's face it, with attrition (that some claim will spike once the Letter T pilots are done), Envoy is going to have to get 35 "they wil comes" each and every month or Envoy continues to melt like the Wicked witch of the West.
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Old 07-04-2016, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly View Post
Well, I think it's a bit premature to associate 2 pilots who get another $3K after taxes with the conclusion "they will come". Let's face it, with attrition (that some claim will spike once the Letter T pilots are done), Envoy is going to have to get 35 "they wil comes" each and every month or Envoy continues to melt like the Wicked witch of the West.
It's the same way everyplace else. They have to extend the Retention Bonus to every NH, increase it to 20k + 15/20k for NH Bonus and this place will get more people.

They already extended the RB to the guys before June30.
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Old 07-04-2016, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 View Post
It's the same way everyplace else. They have to extend the Retention Bonus to every NH, increase it to 20k + 15/20k for NH Bonus and this place will get more people.

They already extended the RB to the guys before June30.
Does little to nothing for tenured pilots and still needs to draw a staggering number of new-hires willing to fly not only CRJ's but E-145's.

I'm not convinced yet.
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Old 07-04-2016, 05:37 PM
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I am happy that they are back filling the bonus money to the people who started this year who didn't get the full amount ENY is giving every NH now.

Can't make everyone happy but good that the few months of NH's didn't get anymore screwed by choosing earlier class dates.
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Old 07-04-2016, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386 View Post
Check out the very first post in this thread then. One of your recruiters stated the flow is "300 this year and 750 over the next two years alone." Seems like the Sales Team is doing their best to drop these expectations.

I would also expect the "fall slowdown" to continue in terms of how many Envoy pilots flow in January 2017 and beyond. After all, staffing is tight. Who's going to fly the planes?
Still refuse to answer any of my VERY straight forward questions to you huh? Is this because you are a liar? I asked you in both public and via a PM yet you refuse to respond to me. So, why do you insist on lying? Is it because envoy fired you and you have a bone to pick so insist on lying to everyone else to make yourself feel better?
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Old 07-04-2016, 09:54 PM
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Is there any 1st or 2nd year FO's that would be willing to answer a few questions?
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Old 07-05-2016, 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mpc3374 View Post
Is there any 1st or 2nd year FO's that would be willing to answer a few questions?
I don't know about that...but I've been here 5.5 yrs. feel free to PM me.
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Old 07-05-2016, 02:47 AM
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I don't know about that...but I've been here 5.5 yrs. feel free to PM me.
Not sure that anyone that has been a regional FO for 5.5 years in this current market is qualified to give anyone advise. Just sayin'.

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Old 07-05-2016, 02:55 AM
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A picture is worth 1000 words. This is the easiest way to describe what's happening at Envoy today.

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