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#4881
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 49
Hey beef,
We would love to have you. I'll help with what I can.
RSV rules: Unfortunately the company is pre assigning its pilots to 4am RAP on day one. This blows for obvious reasons. We're waiting on a ruling from an arbitrator. Schedules are typically 4 or 5 on 3 off. Most get used every day. The RSV flying isn't tedious. A lot of lost overnights and 1 leg first days.
Insurance: don't know premiums for single guys. Insurance is ok. Our contribution % is contractually increasing yearly by 1% a year I believe.
Commuter: 2 flight commute policy. This generally works well. It's not been a hot button issue.
Upgrade: Currently the ORD CRJ is the junior upgrade. DFW EMB145 is close behind. Expecting another vacancy in October and this could change quickly.
Base selection: If you take the 145 you can easily get DFW.
Line: DFW 145 is Feb 2014. ORD 145 is Jan 2015. ORD CRJ is Aug 2015. DFW 175 is Apr 2016.
3 days off: To me it seemed like out of 154 lines on the 145 in DFW more than half had 2 days off in between trips. The 70 some that did have some 3 days off in between weren't all 3 days off in between. They had some two days off mixed in. So maybe 50 lines or 1/3 of the lines are 3 days off. Those 3 day lines are mostly 14 day off. The two day off trips are 11 day off. Out of those decent 50 lines at least half are built to or below guarantee. Then you have the other metrics...commutability, weekends off etc.
Hope this helps.
We would love to have you. I'll help with what I can.
RSV rules: Unfortunately the company is pre assigning its pilots to 4am RAP on day one. This blows for obvious reasons. We're waiting on a ruling from an arbitrator. Schedules are typically 4 or 5 on 3 off. Most get used every day. The RSV flying isn't tedious. A lot of lost overnights and 1 leg first days.
Insurance: don't know premiums for single guys. Insurance is ok. Our contribution % is contractually increasing yearly by 1% a year I believe.
Commuter: 2 flight commute policy. This generally works well. It's not been a hot button issue.
Upgrade: Currently the ORD CRJ is the junior upgrade. DFW EMB145 is close behind. Expecting another vacancy in October and this could change quickly.
Base selection: If you take the 145 you can easily get DFW.
Line: DFW 145 is Feb 2014. ORD 145 is Jan 2015. ORD CRJ is Aug 2015. DFW 175 is Apr 2016.
3 days off: To me it seemed like out of 154 lines on the 145 in DFW more than half had 2 days off in between trips. The 70 some that did have some 3 days off in between weren't all 3 days off in between. They had some two days off mixed in. So maybe 50 lines or 1/3 of the lines are 3 days off. Those 3 day lines are mostly 14 day off. The two day off trips are 11 day off. Out of those decent 50 lines at least half are built to or below guarantee. Then you have the other metrics...commutability, weekends off etc.
Hope this helps.
#4882
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
Hey beef,
We would love to have you. I'll help with what I can.
RSV rules: Unfortunately the company is pre assigning its pilots to 4am RAP on day one. This blows for obvious reasons. We're waiting on a ruling from an arbitrator. Schedules are typically 4 or 5 on 3 off. Most get used every day. The RSV flying isn't tedious. A lot of lost overnights and 1 leg first days.
Insurance: don't know premiums for single guys. Insurance is ok. Our contribution % is contractually increasing yearly by 1% a year I believe.
Commuter: 2 flight commute policy. This generally works well. It's not been a hot button issue.
Upgrade: Currently the ORD CRJ is the junior upgrade. DFW EMB145 is close behind. Expecting another vacancy in October and this could change quickly.
Base selection: If you take the 145 you can easily get DFW.
Line: DFW 145 is Feb 2014. ORD 145 is Jan 2015. ORD CRJ is Aug 2015. DFW 175 is Apr 2016.
3 days off: To me it seemed like out of 154 lines on the 145 in DFW more than half had 2 days off in between trips. The 70 some that did have some 3 days off in between weren't all 3 days off in between. They had some two days off mixed in. So maybe 50 lines or 1/3 of the lines are 3 days off. Those 3 day lines are mostly 14 day off. The two day off trips are 11 day off. Out of those decent 50 lines at least half are built to or below guarantee. Then you have the other metrics...commutability, weekends off etc.
Hope this helps.
We would love to have you. I'll help with what I can.
RSV rules: Unfortunately the company is pre assigning its pilots to 4am RAP on day one. This blows for obvious reasons. We're waiting on a ruling from an arbitrator. Schedules are typically 4 or 5 on 3 off. Most get used every day. The RSV flying isn't tedious. A lot of lost overnights and 1 leg first days.
Insurance: don't know premiums for single guys. Insurance is ok. Our contribution % is contractually increasing yearly by 1% a year I believe.
Commuter: 2 flight commute policy. This generally works well. It's not been a hot button issue.
Upgrade: Currently the ORD CRJ is the junior upgrade. DFW EMB145 is close behind. Expecting another vacancy in October and this could change quickly.
Base selection: If you take the 145 you can easily get DFW.
Line: DFW 145 is Feb 2014. ORD 145 is Jan 2015. ORD CRJ is Aug 2015. DFW 175 is Apr 2016.
3 days off: To me it seemed like out of 154 lines on the 145 in DFW more than half had 2 days off in between trips. The 70 some that did have some 3 days off in between weren't all 3 days off in between. They had some two days off mixed in. So maybe 50 lines or 1/3 of the lines are 3 days off. Those 3 day lines are mostly 14 day off. The two day off trips are 11 day off. Out of those decent 50 lines at least half are built to or below guarantee. Then you have the other metrics...commutability, weekends off etc.
Hope this helps.
Actually commuter policy is now more than 2 per the company provided hotel LOA. I think it is 6 per year.
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#4883
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 299
However, it's not uncommon for crew scheduling to positive space you from HOME to base IF the are in a bind and it doesn't look good on the next flights. I have had several flights this summer with a DH to ORD with Envoy guys trying to D2 to work from DFW. They missed the first flight so they called CS and they got them on the next flight.
#4884
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
So it's still 2 flight attempts but you can use the commuter policy excuse 6 times.
However, it's not uncommon for crew scheduling to positive space you from HOME to base IF the are in a bind and it doesn't look good on the next flights. I have had several flights this summer with a DH to ORD with Envoy guys trying to D2 to work from DFW. They missed the first flight so they called CS and they got them on the next flight.
However, it's not uncommon for crew scheduling to positive space you from HOME to base IF the are in a bind and it doesn't look good on the next flights. I have had several flights this summer with a DH to ORD with Envoy guys trying to D2 to work from DFW. They missed the first flight so they called CS and they got them on the next flight.
Oh okay, I misread what he meant. Yes that's all correct. I've had CS A3 me to ORD as well to commute. So with the 6 occurrences it makes commuting here a bit easier as long as you have two attempts documented. However that may not be that easy for someone commuting out of a smaller city that has only two flights a day. I think the stress varies depending on where you live.
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#4887
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Position: forever fo
Posts: 2,413
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