SilentLurker

I actually read more personal attacks from the "self anointed fact checkers" refuting the optimist on here. Everyone spins the facts to suite their agenda. You have also.

Awaiting the personal attacks and unprofessional name calling + acusations, and immature references because i choose to see positive aspects of things occuring NOW at ENY also like Skyvector.

go skers

Not true but coming from you that's hilarious. Thanks for playing

ag386

This is a very clear and accurate picture of the schedules at Envoy.

SilentLurker

I hear from two EVY buddies @ ORD who are line holders, and commuted on Rsv. They said its not THAT bad & it is true things can be better with the schedules, but its not so seriously bad that he would tell prospective Envoy pilots to "stay away." That schedules can be better of course. Both MY Friends commute, they are line holders now for a while. But they both have positive things to say & told me about some negatives. The positives far outweight the negatives. They enjoy their jobs and each say, "I really can't complain man."

Same for personal leave for immediate family being hurt or passing away. Plenty of time off given to my buddy. No questions asked!

Thats why i say some Characters on here..... smh. We are not enemies. Live long and prosper my friend. Be grateful! Enjoy life. Its all in the State of Mind. Be the great pilot group, fight where you need, take the crumbes where you can, and before you know it you'll have a loafs size sooner rather later.

MEC, Sched committee said improvements are on the way, GREAT! Promulgate that!!!!!!! Such distrust on the positives? Trust the negative, think you can do his job? Hate it so much? Think you can do a better job faster? Then volunteer, learn the ropes, and run for a union position or chairman and change things!

Nobody said Envoy or any Regional is a Utopia. If anyone does, they are liars.

We all value your insights, especially new folks like me. But we hear so many negatives! So so so many negatives! But not enough of the positives.

Waiting for the "you have 0 experience. Your clue-less. Your managmenent. Your dumber than i though. Your entitled generation. You must be in recruiting dept. Your a fool. You have no experience in the regionals." crap to be spewed instead of the brighter side of my comments.

Buzzlightyear

I have flown with commuting FO's for years as our schedules have deteriorated. Commuting FO's with kids at home. Now they get to try to commute, many working uncommutable trips with two days off in between. Maybe you're friends are new to the industry or single. To either group I can see how they say "it's not that bad." Bad is probably all they have known. The norm is much better than what we currently have. My Fo found 2 lines that were commutable and high time for October. I guess "it's not THAT bad".

leica typ240

...yes, YOU'RE!

are you even on property yet? pass training first then you can wow all of us with your years of wisdom, since you've been following the regional industries for years!

BeefJerky

Trying to get some insight. New FO considering a lateral move from another regional, with the incentives Envoy's now offering.

Reserve rules/ schedule?
Health insurance for a single guy- what insurance company- good coverage?
Commuter clause?
Any differences in upgrade times depending on airframe?
ORD probable out of training? How long to hold DFW?
How long to hold a line-- ORD?-DFW?

From the looks of it schedules aren't great. Are 3 consecutive days off totally unheard of?

Thanks in advance and good luck with everything.

Bigpimppilot

Wow this silentlurker is here spinning it like it's his job or something. Amazing. What bothers me is that some kid that doesn't have any friends or mentors in the industry may make a decision based on his optimism. That would be a shame.

Buzzlightyear

Hey beef,

We would love to have you. I'll help with what I can.
RSV rules: Unfortunately the company is pre assigning its pilots to 4am RAP on day one. This blows for obvious reasons. We're waiting on a ruling from an arbitrator. Schedules are typically 4 or 5 on 3 off. Most get used every day. The RSV flying isn't tedious. A lot of lost overnights and 1 leg first days.
Insurance: don't know premiums for single guys. Insurance is ok. Our contribution % is contractually increasing yearly by 1% a year I believe.
Commuter: 2 flight commute policy. This generally works well. It's not been a hot button issue.
Upgrade: Currently the ORD CRJ is the junior upgrade. DFW EMB145 is close behind. Expecting another vacancy in October and this could change quickly.
Base selection: If you take the 145 you can easily get DFW.
Line: DFW 145 is Feb 2014. ORD 145 is Jan 2015. ORD CRJ is Aug 2015. DFW 175 is Apr 2016.
3 days off: To me it seemed like out of 154 lines on the 145 in DFW more than half had 2 days off in between trips. The 70 some that did have some 3 days off in between weren't all 3 days off in between. They had some two days off mixed in. So maybe 50 lines or 1/3 of the lines are 3 days off. Those 3 day lines are mostly 14 day off. The two day off trips are 11 day off. Out of those decent 50 lines at least half are built to or below guarantee. Then you have the other metrics...commutability, weekends off etc.

Hope this helps.

BeefJerky

Excellent! All good info thank you.