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Old 12-22-2015 | 04:00 PM
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Word from the training center yesterday. Next vacancy bid expected in March. About 20 Capt vacancies. Well on the way to upgrading 700 FOs in 18 months it seems.
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Old 12-22-2015 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386
Word from the training center yesterday. Next vacancy bid expected in March. About 20 Capt vacancies. Well on the way to upgrading 700 FOs in 18 months it seems.
You mean word from talk airline forums. That's always accurate.
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Old 12-22-2015 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by N927EV
You mean word from talk airline forums. That's always accurate.
Regardless of information source, we will find out in 90 or so days. Vacancies should really be happening in January if they are going to upgrade 700 FOs.
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Old 12-22-2015 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386
Regardless of information source, we will find out in 90 or so days. Vacancies should really be happening in January if they are going to upgrade 700 FOs.
Here's the "source" for everyone to see for themselves. "Someone who may have heard from someone who heard from ric."


http://www.****************/showthre...y-Displacement

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Guess it doesn't allow the link. It's on one of the eagle pilot forums.
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Old 12-22-2015 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by N927EV
Here's the "source" for everyone to see for themselves. "Someone who may have heard from someone who heard from ric."


http://www.****************/showthre...y-Displacement

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Guess it doesn't allow the link. It's on one of the eagle pilot forums.
Who cares about that crap anyway.
The question us Envoy boys have got to be asking in 2016 is "Where's the Vacancy Bid!!!!!!!??????" Huh? Put some meat on your 2.5/6 claims Ricky. I'm ready and waiting. We've gotta see some vacancy action in the 1st quarter. Actually, this 2.5/6 business was announced in April of last year. So, shouldn't it be 1 3/4 and 5 1/4 now? Right? Right?
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Old 12-22-2015 | 05:29 PM
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ag386-the fraud-you aren't fooling anyone. You were exposed as a liar and as a person WHO DOES NOT work at Envoy.

It's only Karma that of all the month/year combinations you could have made up as your "hire date" you chose the one in which there is only ONE pilot currently on the seniority list. I know that pilot. I have flown with him. You are not him. Furthermore, you claim you are off on Christmas when in fact he is working that day.

Your foot in mouth procedure didn't end there. You first claimed to be "stuck" on reserve even though people junior to your fake hire date are line holders. Then you attempt to back peddle and claim you bid reserve on purpose to have Christmas off...except the one May 2013 hire on property is working on Christmas.

Oops!! You were also way off on your "most junior Captain" number which is easily verified by anyone who actually works at Envoy. Now you are claiming to be getting information from the training center when in fact you are getting it off of TALK AIRLINE?!?!?!?!


LMAO!!!! This is priceless!

You are a fraud, a liar, and a troll. You are lucky there are no mods on this forum as your fake account is on borrowed time at this point. Tell us who you really work for. Bet you won't...cowards like you prefer to live in the shadows.
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Old 12-22-2015 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by n927ev
any idea of additional flying coming our way? And anything about better hiring/retention bonuses, now that most other regionals pay more than the wos?
not even close to reality!!!!
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Old 12-22-2015 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
I don't want to start any rumors or pull a "Ric Wilson" and announce things too early even if they are factually correct. So I won't comment on any return flying just yet.

As for bonuses, the answer is no. First because we are having no problem retaining pilots. Since things stabilized around here and now that he flow is a serious thing people are staying.

Second because AA believes that an enhanced flow to AA in under 6 years with no interview will be enough to attract pilots.

In that they are correct. If the flow works and continues to work as we have seen it, Envoy will hire all the pilots they need and more without bonuses.

Bonuses at the Regional level are nice, but the real money is at mainline. Always has been and always will be. If a pilot can flow in under 6 years and be making over 100k that would be more valuable than any Regional bonus.
But, AA (or more accurately AAG) isn't claiming any timeline promises to flow to AA, Envoy management is. Additionally, an Envoy pilot who flows to AA whenever that occurs, won't be making 100K, let alone over that. You're artfully jiggering your claims to imply things that aren't accurate by insinuating AA is representing a pilot "can flow to AA in under 6 years and be making over $100K".

The only one representing the 6 year timeline is Envoy management and the only one claiming an Envoy new-hire will be making over (not just) $100K at AA in under 6 years is you.

That's just complete and total B.S.
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Old 12-22-2015 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Looks like AA is accelerating the arrival of the E-175s to Envoy. They are delivering more per month than originally anticipated. Revenue service begins in Febuary if I remember correctly.
I've heard no increase in E-175 deliveries or deployment at Envoy. If so, please post the info. The February target to begin revenue flying has been consistent for at least a year.

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Also the CRJ-700s look like they are staying, and word is that the 145s sent to TSA & Xjet in 2014 will be returning as well.
LOOK like they are staying ?

I've heard no announcement confirming that. Could you please post that too ? In fact, why don't you also post the 145 announcment ?

You criticize me for making hypotheticals and here you are doing exactly that.

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Another nugget of information: 360+ pilots will flow to AA in 2016. That is almost every Captain that will flow who will be gone this time next year.
What ?

The "nugget" you describe has been around awhile and the 30/month is an assumption. Almost ALL Envoy captains will flow by this time next year ? Aren't there perhaps 900 captains ?

Good lord, you've gone off the deep end. Is there no limit to the crap you'll claim here in your desperately pathetic attempt to lure in the simple-minded ?
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Old 12-22-2015 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
But, AA (or more accurately AAG) isn't claiming any timeline promises to flow to AA, Envoy management is. Additionally, an Envoy pilot who flows to AA whenever that occurs, won't be making 100K, let alone over that. You're artfully jiggering your claims to imply things that aren't accurate by insinuating AA is representing a pilot "can flow to AA in under 6 years and be making over $100K".

The only one representing the 6 year timeline is Envoy management and the only one claiming an Envoy new-hire will be making over (not just) $100K at AA in under 6 years is you.

That's just complete and total B.S.
AAG has said it in their town hall meeting videos. Can't tell you which one because they cut off our jetnet access.

The flow part; not the $$$ part.
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