Pay increases at Envoy
09-14-2016 | 10:18 AM
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Sounds like the same old AAG.... sorry guys! No wonder all the newbs are so dam excited.... collect all the money while the rest of the guys get crapped on!
I thought we voted down the b scale multiple times what happened?
I thought we voted down the b scale multiple times what happened?
09-14-2016 | 10:20 AM
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09-14-2016 | 10:27 AM
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09-14-2016 | 10:28 AM
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Is DP and Pedro paying you extra to stand on the corner with that little skirt and Pom poms holding an envoy sign?
09-14-2016 | 10:30 AM
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09-14-2016 | 10:34 AM
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09-14-2016 | 11:34 AM
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From: Gear swinger
So let me get this straight....
Some folks are mad because new hires are getting raises and retention bonus's and saying we should thank YOU for paying the raises and such while you guys get crapped on...
This proposal was made yesterday and effective today without a soul getting a vote....
I think you're mad at the wrong people. If you have an issue, it seems to me like you have a management issue, not a new hire issue.
And guess why we have some of these incentives and bonuses? Because of support from senior pilot groups AND the new hires that held out from joining a regional in the first place because pay wasn't worth it.
Although this may not be the best, its a boost, it's a start. But something had to be done in order to captivate new hires through the door.
My respects to the senior folks as well, I realize the argument you're trying to make and I truly hope something changes for you in regards to your efforts.
But once again, don't blame us for getting the bump in pay we never even voted for. Don't think some of us new guys don't think about you. But please reevaluate where you want to place the blame and your gripes toward.
Some folks are mad because new hires are getting raises and retention bonus's and saying we should thank YOU for paying the raises and such while you guys get crapped on...
This proposal was made yesterday and effective today without a soul getting a vote....
I think you're mad at the wrong people. If you have an issue, it seems to me like you have a management issue, not a new hire issue.
And guess why we have some of these incentives and bonuses? Because of support from senior pilot groups AND the new hires that held out from joining a regional in the first place because pay wasn't worth it.
Although this may not be the best, its a boost, it's a start. But something had to be done in order to captivate new hires through the door.
My respects to the senior folks as well, I realize the argument you're trying to make and I truly hope something changes for you in regards to your efforts.
But once again, don't blame us for getting the bump in pay we never even voted for. Don't think some of us new guys don't think about you. But please reevaluate where you want to place the blame and your gripes toward.
09-14-2016 | 11:39 AM
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So let me get this straight....
Some folks are mad because new hires are getting raises and retention bonus's and saying we should thank YOU for paying the raises and such while you guys get crapped on...
This proposal was made yesterday and effective today without a soul getting a vote....
I think you're mad at the wrong people. If you have an issue, it seems to me like you have a management issue, not a new hire issue.
And guess why we have some of these incentives and bonuses? Because of support from senior pilot groups AND the new hires that held out from joining a regional in the first place because pay wasn't worth it.
Although this may not be the best, its a boost, it's a start. But something had to be done in order to captivate new hires through the door.
My respects to the senior folks as well, I realize the argument you're trying to make and I truly hope something changes for you in regards to your efforts.
But once again, don't blame us for getting the bump in pay we never even voted for. Don't think some of us new guys don't think about you. But please reevaluate where you want to place the blame and your gripes toward.
Some folks are mad because new hires are getting raises and retention bonus's and saying we should thank YOU for paying the raises and such while you guys get crapped on...
This proposal was made yesterday and effective today without a soul getting a vote....
I think you're mad at the wrong people. If you have an issue, it seems to me like you have a management issue, not a new hire issue.
And guess why we have some of these incentives and bonuses? Because of support from senior pilot groups AND the new hires that held out from joining a regional in the first place because pay wasn't worth it.
Although this may not be the best, its a boost, it's a start. But something had to be done in order to captivate new hires through the door.
My respects to the senior folks as well, I realize the argument you're trying to make and I truly hope something changes for you in regards to your efforts.
But once again, don't blame us for getting the bump in pay we never even voted for. Don't think some of us new guys don't think about you. But please reevaluate where you want to place the blame and your gripes toward.
And current FOs already got a bonus...$20,000. In fact part of it gets paid out next week. And now they have $2,500 extra when they upgrade. Not to mention the additional benefits of extra new hires.
Everything is fine, don't worry. Smutter and a few others do NOT represent all of us.
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