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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 502
30th: maybe $2600
That's with two years seniority, after tax/insurance, and based on WI withholding.
$1920 guaranteed in the bank every check. 30 months on property, live in TX, top level on all health insurance for just me. Plus per-diem and whatever overage I get. Basically on 3rd-year CA pay for a single person, you can figure at least $3800 in the bank every month, usually a few hundred more.
$1920 guaranteed in the bank every check. 30 months on property, live in TX, top level on all health insurance for just me. Plus per-diem and whatever overage I get. Basically on 3rd-year CA pay for a single person, you can figure at least $3800 in the bank every month, usually a few hundred more.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,465
$1920 guaranteed in the bank every check. 30 months on property, live in TX, top level on all health insurance for just me. Plus per-diem and whatever overage I get. Basically on 3rd-year CA pay for a single person, you can figure at least $3800 in the bank every month, usually a few hundred more.
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2018
Posts: 43
Are Envoy FOs across the fleet/bases sitting reserve for a long period of time? Some say yes, some say no but it's not always quantified. I understand "it depends." Are we talking 3 months, 6 months, 12+? What aircraft (As a 31 year old RTP it sounds like I would not have much of a choice, if my class were even offered a choice)? I would be looking at ORD or LGA.
Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 47
Are Envoy FOs across the fleet/bases sitting reserve for a long period of time? Some say yes, some say no but it's not always quantified. I understand "it depends." Are we talking 3 months, 6 months, 12+? What aircraft (As a 31 year old RTP it sounds like I would not have much of a choice, if my class were even offered a choice)? I would be looking at ORD or LGA.
Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 224
Are Envoy FOs across the fleet/bases sitting reserve for a long period of time? Some say yes, some say no but it's not always quantified. I understand "it depends." Are we talking 3 months, 6 months, 12+? What aircraft (As a 31 year old RTP it sounds like I would not have much of a choice, if my class were even offered a choice)? I would be looking at ORD or LGA.
Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
As far as reserve goes..
In Chicago, the most senior reserve pilots seem to be NOV/DEC 2017 hires, although they probably held a line for some of the summer months when more lines were around to be had.
In New York, I'm seeing DOH of FEB/MAR of 2017. Same deal.
Going forward..In New York, I'm seeing DOH of FEB/MAR of 2017. Same deal.
According to an email sent to us by management, in Chicago lines are supposed to increase to ~120 hard lines in March, that means 15 more people off reserve this spring. Looking further, they're predicting ~145 lines by June.
Every 3 months there's a Vacancy Bid which allows pilots to shuffle bases and equipment (FOs cannot change aircraft without upgrading to CA). These will throw predictions off, and are impossible (for me) to predict.
Long story short, don't commute on reserve. You WILL hate it here. The flow isn't worth it. There's better places to work based on reserve rules alone.
Every 3 months there's a Vacancy Bid which allows pilots to shuffle bases and equipment (FOs cannot change aircraft without upgrading to CA). These will throw predictions off, and are impossible (for me) to predict.
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 98
You're going to be hired into the 145 in either ORD or LGA, depending on which particular stars have lined up in the cosmos the week of your start of Indoc. Unless you get lucky. You won't though.
As far as reserve goes..
As far as reserve goes..
In Chicago, the most senior reserve pilots seem to be NOV/DEC 2017 hires, although they probably held a line for some of the summer months when more lines were around to be had.
In New York, I'm seeing DOH of FEB/MAR of 2017. Same deal.
Going forward..In New York, I'm seeing DOH of FEB/MAR of 2017. Same deal.
According to an email sent to us by management, in Chicago lines are supposed to increase to ~120 hard lines in March, that means 15 more people off reserve this spring. Looking further, they're predicting ~145 lines by June.
Every 3 months there's a Vacancy Bid which allows pilots to shuffle bases and equipment (FOs cannot change aircraft without upgrading to CA). These will throw predictions off, and are impossible (for me) to predict.
Long story short, don't commute on reserve. You WILL hate it here. The flow isn't worth it. There's better places to work based on reserve rules alone.Every 3 months there's a Vacancy Bid which allows pilots to shuffle bases and equipment (FOs cannot change aircraft without upgrading to CA). These will throw predictions off, and are impossible (for me) to predict.
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