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Old 10-23-2018, 02:58 PM
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As a new CA thats been with the company for 2 years. What do the 15th and 30th pay checks look like? Trying to get an idea for budget planning next year.
15th: a bit over $1600
30th: maybe $2600

That's with two years seniority, after tax/insurance, and based on WI withholding.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:36 PM
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As a new CA thats been with the company for 2 years. What do the 15th and 30th pay checks look like? Trying to get an idea for budget planning next year.
$1920 guaranteed in the bank every check. 30 months on property, live in TX, top level on all health insurance for just me. Plus per-diem and whatever overage I get. Basically on 3rd-year CA pay for a single person, you can figure at least $3800 in the bank every month, usually a few hundred more.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985 View Post
$1920 guaranteed in the bank every check. 30 months on property, live in TX, top level on all health insurance for just me. Plus per-diem and whatever overage I get. Basically on 3rd-year CA pay for a single person, you can figure at least $3800 in the bank every month, usually a few hundred more.
What’s your 401k contribution? That will make a difference with your take home as well.
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Old 10-23-2018, 07:36 PM
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How many planes are in MIA and are they all 145’s?
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Old 10-23-2018, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by uavking View Post
15th: a bit over $1600
30th: maybe $2600

That's with two years seniority, after tax/insurance, and based on WI withholding.
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$1920 guaranteed in the bank every check. 30 months on property, live in TX, top level on all health insurance for just me. Plus per-diem and whatever overage I get. Basically on 3rd-year CA pay for a single person, you can figure at least $3800 in the bank every month, usually a few hundred more.
I need to stay FO as long as possible.
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Old 10-24-2018, 04:41 AM
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Are Envoy FOs across the fleet/bases sitting reserve for a long period of time? Some say yes, some say no but it's not always quantified. I understand "it depends." Are we talking 3 months, 6 months, 12+? What aircraft (As a 31 year old RTP it sounds like I would not have much of a choice, if my class were even offered a choice)? I would be looking at ORD or LGA.

Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
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Old 10-24-2018, 06:11 AM
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Are Envoy FOs across the fleet/bases sitting reserve for a long period of time? Some say yes, some say no but it's not always quantified. I understand "it depends." Are we talking 3 months, 6 months, 12+? What aircraft (As a 31 year old RTP it sounds like I would not have much of a choice, if my class were even offered a choice)? I would be looking at ORD or LGA.

Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
I’m going on 6 months in ord 145 with no end in sight.
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Old 10-24-2018, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by rabbo View Post
Are Envoy FOs across the fleet/bases sitting reserve for a long period of time? Some say yes, some say no but it's not always quantified. I understand "it depends." Are we talking 3 months, 6 months, 12+? What aircraft (As a 31 year old RTP it sounds like I would not have much of a choice, if my class were even offered a choice)? I would be looking at ORD or LGA.

Just looking for best guesses here as I have a couple of options available and I would prefer to not commute to reserve for half a year or more when there are other places I could hold a line much quicker.
You're going to be hired into the 145 in either ORD or LGA, depending on which particular stars have lined up in the cosmos the week of your start of Indoc. Unless you get lucky. You won't though.

As far as reserve goes..
In Chicago, the most senior reserve pilots seem to be NOV/DEC 2017 hires, although they probably held a line for some of the summer months when more lines were around to be had.

In New York, I'm seeing DOH of FEB/MAR of 2017. Same deal.
Going forward..
According to an email sent to us by management, in Chicago lines are supposed to increase to ~120 hard lines in March, that means 15 more people off reserve this spring. Looking further, they're predicting ~145 lines by June.

Every 3 months there's a Vacancy Bid which allows pilots to shuffle bases and equipment (FOs cannot change aircraft without upgrading to CA). These will throw predictions off, and are impossible (for me) to predict.
Long story short, don't commute on reserve. You WILL hate it here. The flow isn't worth it. There's better places to work based on reserve rules alone.
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Old 10-24-2018, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg View Post
What’s your 401k contribution? That will make a difference with your take home as well.
My numbers are based on a 7% 401k contribution (to get the full match) and mid-tier insurance.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:28 AM
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You're going to be hired into the 145 in either ORD or LGA, depending on which particular stars have lined up in the cosmos the week of your start of Indoc. Unless you get lucky. You won't though.

As far as reserve goes..
In Chicago, the most senior reserve pilots seem to be NOV/DEC 2017 hires, although they probably held a line for some of the summer months when more lines were around to be had.

In New York, I'm seeing DOH of FEB/MAR of 2017. Same deal.
Going forward..
According to an email sent to us by management, in Chicago lines are supposed to increase to ~120 hard lines in March, that means 15 more people off reserve this spring. Looking further, they're predicting ~145 lines by June.

Every 3 months there's a Vacancy Bid which allows pilots to shuffle bases and equipment (FOs cannot change aircraft without upgrading to CA). These will throw predictions off, and are impossible (for me) to predict.
Long story short, don't commute on reserve. You WILL hate it here. The flow isn't worth it. There's better places to work based on reserve rules alone.
All you flow haters are crazy. The flow is 100% worth it. If you really think it’s going to take a new hire 9 years to flow in this hiring environment you are out of your mind. Flow will have to be increased to keep up with AA’s hiring goals. Delta and United are just ramping up their hiring and attrition will continue to rise. I wouldn’tbe suprised if the entire envoy seniority list was gone in 5 years.
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