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Old 11-26-2018 | 10:43 AM
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Thankfully at AA, at least in my limited control group of pilots, they are dead set on not increasing scope, which is fabulous for regional folks.
Former Eagle MEC members are on the scope committee. There will be no relaxation of scope.
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Old 11-26-2018 | 11:28 AM
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Former Eagle MEC members are on the scope committee. There will be no relaxation of scope.
Of course they are. Would not expect otherwise from them. Means no pay increase at aa anytime soon, unless.
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Old 11-26-2018 | 01:24 PM
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Well there goes my dream of an Airbus type rating at Envoy.
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Old 11-26-2018 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
Former Eagle MEC members are on the scope committee. There will be no relaxation of scope.

Until they say us regional pilots an entitled generation, and sell out to pay raises, to make up for the the “lost decade” & because regional pilots are suppose to pay their dues. I wish I was joking. Look at the recent LOAs for flow grievance settlement, even Rsv FOs flying more (granted that last until FEB19) still a give away, for gains. Completely different (flow vs scope giveaways), but the psychological mindset is similar (give-away for company needs for a increase in flow) reasoning is the same. X has it good, Y deserves more. X needs to pay its dues, Y deserves more on the backs of X, because that’s what happened to Y.

Past stance is not an indication of future actions. Money can, will, could change Union leadership and members mindset last minute, it has in the past and could in the future.

ALPA is far far far from perfect, and APA needs lots of eye balls when it comes to Scope is my main point. Eagle pilots in the “Scope Committee” means nothing.

Watch the actions, not words or which regional committee members came from.

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Old 11-26-2018 | 08:28 PM
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Today I had 3 legs of overtime on my schedule followed by 5 legs tomorrow. After delays, scheduling took away 4 of the legs (1 from today and 3 from tomorrow). When it’s all said and done, will I be paid for all of the legs that I originally picked up? Or do I lose pay because scheduling took them off my schedule?
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Old 11-26-2018 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by goldenbear1
Today I had 3 legs of overtime on my schedule followed by 5 legs tomorrow. After delays, scheduling took away 4 of the legs (1 from today and 3 from tomorrow). When it’s all said and done, will I be paid for all of the legs that I originally picked up? Or do I lose pay because scheduling took them off my schedule?

Take a look at the contract. The answer to your question is there.

Just make sure you make yourself available for another trip. If they have nothing for you, then you should get paid the OT dropped by scheduling.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by goldenbear1
Today I had 3 legs of overtime on my schedule followed by 5 legs tomorrow. After delays, scheduling took away 4 of the legs (1 from today and 3 from tomorrow). When it’s all said and done, will I be paid for all of the legs that I originally picked up? Or do I lose pay because scheduling took them off my schedule?
You get paid for the OT regardless, you get premium pay if you were already ready signed in for the sequence before the cancellation, and you call scheduling to make yourself available for reassignment... and you email your pay company auditor to ensure the pay is adjusted. Gotta jump through all the envoy hoops to get that money my friend.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 02:38 PM
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Ok, so I understand that you should always ask the flight crew if you can catch a ride in the jumpseat if theres no other seats in the back.

What I dont understand is why is it normal etiquette to ask the flight crew for a ride if you already have a seat in the back.

This seems like a weird formality to me.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SilentLurker

Past stance is not an indication of future actions. Money can, will, could change Union leadership and members mindset last minute, it has in the past and could in the future.

ALPA is far far far from perfect, and APA needs lots of eye balls when it comes to Scope is my main point. Eagle pilots in the “Scope Committee” means nothing.

Watch the actions, not words or which regional committee members came from.
It does when it’s VJ that’s on that committee. He ain’t giving them squat. The former scope chairman went to a top leadership position and he was invaluable in the whole STW movement where all the regionals finally worked together, much to the chagrin of ALPA National. Yep, the APA helped us more in bankruptcy than ALPA did.
That’s fact.
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Old 11-27-2018 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFast8
Ok, so I understand that you should always ask the flight crew if you can catch a ride in the jumpseat if theres no other seats in the back.

What I dont understand is why is it normal etiquette to ask the flight crew for a ride if you already have a seat in the back.

This seems like a weird formality to me.
Because jumpseating is at the discretion of the captain. You need permission, it’s not checking in. You ride with his/her permission regardless of where you sit. Can’t really discuss it much more than that because this site restricts jumpseat procedure discussions. Go to the ALPA website and hit the jumpseat info there. It will explain all the details.

Non-Reving on a D2 is different, you do not check in.
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