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09-21-2017, 02:50 PM
#4431
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Originally Posted by bitwiser
In my particular case, the reasoning would be that when I accepted the job, this was not how seniority was determined. The bait and switch is never a good way to start a new job..
09-21-2017, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bitwiser
In my particular case, the reasoning would be that when I accepted the job, this was not how seniority was determined. The bait and switch is never a good way to start a new job..
09-21-2017, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Subpilot
Now, when is AA going to do the same for us at mainline and give flowthroughs super seniority in new-hire classes?
09-21-2017, 05:42 PM
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Flow with delivery of 40th 175
So what is the deal with the flow now that Envoy has taken delivery of the 40th 175? Does this mean more will flow now or less as it looks like every subsequent group seems to be? When does it actually take affect? Does it change anyone already selected?
09-21-2017, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
So what is the deal with the flow now that Envoy has taken delivery of the 40th 175? Does this mean more will flow now or less as it looks like every subsequent group seems to be? When does it actually take affect? Does it change anyone already selected?
09-21-2017, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 67Creek
Other than "that's how it used to be", what reasoning would lead to the conclusion that you are entitled to a higher seniority based not on merit or experience, but on being born on an earlier date?
Just about any potential factor I can think of (time spent committed to the company, part 121 experience, general flight experience, crew or military experience, additional ratings, past positions held, etc) would, to me, seem like more justifiable factors to sort seniority by. Years until mandatory retirement (the inverse of age) does seem pertinent, but I would think the airlines have a vested interested in keeping younger people happy, as they have more longevity--at least as far as regulations go.
This isn't a personal attack on your stance, I'm genuinely curious.
Just about any potential factor I can think of (time spent committed to the company, part 121 experience, general flight experience, crew or military experience, additional ratings, past positions held, etc) would, to me, seem like more justifiable factors to sort seniority by. Years until mandatory retirement (the inverse of age) does seem pertinent, but I would think the airlines have a vested interested in keeping younger people happy, as they have more longevity--at least as far as regulations go.
This isn't a personal attack on your stance, I'm genuinely curious.
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