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Old 10-01-2017 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsch
Hopefully a lot of changes!
Coming from another 121 carrier to Envoy, all I can say is reserve at Envoy needs a major overhaul!
I saw them a couple weeks ago in the crew room during an ALPA meet and greet. I think that they are an improvement, and that the group will vote to pass them. I still would like to see a true long call reserve, but thats not going to happening right now.
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Old 10-01-2017 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassman1985
Wow. In 8 years in 121 across 3 airlines I've never heard of a company being able to FORCE someone to upgrade. Obviously it can happen in the other direction, but wow.

15.G.4 seems to indicate that they will start from the bottom of the seniority list and work upwards if they do actually do this?
Comair did it into the Brasilia in reverse seniority order. From the bottom up, if you had the time, company mins, then you were forced to upgrade in the Brasilia, regardless if you were a CRJ FO.
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Old 10-01-2017 | 06:14 PM
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So with EDV rumored to be moving to a starting pay of $60/hr for f/o’s and $83/hr for year one captains, how will we react? We’ve had some big classes lately, but the flow is at about 8 years for a new hire. What’s the new incentive to come to ENY going to be?
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Old 10-01-2017 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
So with EDV rumored to be moving to a starting pay of $60/hr for f/o’s and $83/hr for year one captains, how will we react? We’ve had some big classes lately, but the flow is at about 8 years for a new hire. What’s the new incentive to come to ENY going to be?
Once EDV rolls out permanent raises in lieu of bonuses, Envoy will follow suit. It has already been discussed. I imagine PSA/PDT will as well.
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Old 10-01-2017 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
So with EDV rumored to be moving to a starting pay of $60/hr for f/o’s and $83/hr for year one captains, how will we react? We’ve had some big classes lately, but the flow is at about 8 years for a new hire. What’s the new incentive to come to ENY going to be?
The flow. No further incentive needed.
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Old 10-02-2017 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
Once EDV rolls out permanent raises in lieu of bonuses, Envoy will follow suit. It has already been discussed. I imagine PSA/PDT will as well.
Where and when was this discussed?
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Old 10-02-2017 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
Where and when was this discussed?
Agreed. Haven’t seen a mention of it whatsoever.
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Old 10-02-2017 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
Where and when was this discussed?
Not publicly.
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Old 10-02-2017 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pedro4president
here is a break down of number of lines with more than 5 days off in a row. I just looked at these two but feel free to look at others.
Dfw 145
16ish out of 67(could of miss counted)
lga 145
27 out of 70.

If you want the exact number on others the get it yourself.

Many is more than a few but less than half.
OCT '17
dfw emb
14/68 - 21%
ord emb
10/80 - 13%
ord crj
20/95 - 21%
dfw e75
43/156 - 28%
lga emb
27/70 - 39%
mia emb
10/25 - 40%

124/494 25%

Overall you have to be in the top quarter of your bid status to get a line with more than 5 days in a row off.

Originally Posted by newto121
Im applying to Envoy and I have a few questions for anyone out there that may be able to answer. Thank you in advance.

As a junior FO and after the reserve period, would it be possible to get days off in a row like six or seven at some point during the month rather than doing 4on/2off, 4on/2off thru the whole month?

As far as you can tell is it possible to pick up dropped time and extra trips to get 90 to 100 hours of credit at all?

I would like to be based in DFW (Im 40, ATP, 8000TT, mostly turbine) would it be realistic for me to expect DFW in the 175?

Are the upgrades to Cap realistically happening in 12 to 15 months?`1

Any information on medical insurance premiums, co-pay, deductible, max out of pocket (family of 3)?


Thanks so much for your time.
With the above numbers you can see that you will not likely get the gaps you are talking about for quite some time.

From the latest seniority list here is the breakdown of seat status

Dallas Captain
EMB - 190
E75 - 214
Dallas FO
EMB - 173
E75 - 235
NYC Captain
EMB - 124
NYC FO
EMB - 172
Chicago Captain
EMB - 124
CRJ - 139
Chicago FO
EMB - 138
CRJ - 160

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Old 10-02-2017 | 07:10 AM
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Thanks for all this information. Good stuff.

Everyone knows that the best schedules go to the senior pilots in status.
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