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Old 01-09-2018 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Whoa, how'd you pull that trick? I noticed an earlier flight home was delayed to the point I could make it so I went and checked it out. Delayed to change a tire. Said I couldn't get on because the flight was already closed. Then, while I was still there, they decided to deplane to let the passengers stretch their legs while they wait. I asked again about getting on "no, the flight is closed". This was an Envoy flight.
When they close out a flight on their computer, it usually takes a manager to be able to go in and OPEN up the flight again to add you to the final count. Had this happen a few times and all it takes to politely ask to have the manager come open it up, or ask to speak to the captain.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty22
When they close out a flight on their computer, it usually takes a manager to be able to go in and OPEN up the flight again to add you to the final count. Had this happen a few times and all it takes to politely ask to have the manager come open it up, or ask to speak to the captain.
Yeah, I will say that since then I've learned to always make sure the Captain knows your there trying to get on. The gate agents can be quite stern about you not getting on the flight for stupid reasons.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 06:35 AM
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Since we are tossing rumors around. Heard another yesterday that AAG has already approved Endevor plus pay rates. Management just doesn’t see a need to increase because of the amount of people they are getting in class. This matches very close to what ALPA told me when I sent an email last week.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
Since we are tossing rumors around. Heard another yesterday that AAG has already approved Endevor plus pay rates. Management just doesn’t see a need to increase because of the amount of people they are getting in class. This matches very close to what ALPA told me when I sent an email last week.
Which management?
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Old 01-09-2018 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
Since we are tossing rumors around. Heard another yesterday that AAG has already approved Endevor plus pay rates. Management just doesn’t see a need to increase because of the amount of people they are getting in class. This matches very close to what ALPA told me when I sent an email last week.
I would not be surprised at all. Doing anything earlier than necessary is leaving money on the table and doesn't make stock holders happy.

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Old 01-09-2018 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
Since we are tossing rumors around. Heard another yesterday that AAG has already approved Endevor plus pay rates. Management just doesn’t see a need to increase because of the amount of people they are getting in class. This matches very close to what ALPA told me when I sent an email last week.
The union said that on a conference call when the rsv loa was out...AAG has the money approved...its ENY mgmt that's the hold up.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
The union said that on a conference call when the rsv loa was out...AAG has the money approved...its ENY mgmt that's the hold up.
This is correct. For a change from times past, AAG has already authorized pay raises and it's Envoy management that is being stingy. PDT and PSA are currently in negotiations with their management for raises. I think our best hope around here is for them to make it happen and then we'll see it here. We won't see a dime until then or until our new hire classes start to drop off.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 07:42 AM
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In other news the "High Value Aviator" $45K bonus structure just went public for previous 121 applicants.

https://jobs.envoyair.com/hva/

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Old 01-09-2018 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
PSA is as close to a scab as you can get.
I think the trans states guys will have a different opinion on that.
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Old 01-09-2018 | 08:12 AM
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Well apparently the van driver didn’t know what he was talking about. No new class. I do have it confirmed that next Monday 78 are scheduled to start. Sorry for the bad info before.
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