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Old 02-03-2017, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot View Post
Wasn't that bleed leak thing discovered when we got the 145s back from Tsa? My info may be shady on that but I remember hearing the Feds were called out to look at a bunch of mx stuff. Wasn't tsa then given more flying at a future date? All was forgiven and they got their ducks in a row I guess.
The fuel low level sensor in the left tank kept activating and being put on MEL. Eventually, some TSA mechanic gave up and cut the wires to it. Our mechanics in ABI found it (among other things) and called the FAA to come look at some of the things they were finding. It amazes me to this day that TSA wasn't fined out of existence by the feds.

Each aircraft we got back from them took on average of 1 million dollars of parts/labor to bring it up to airworthiness standards according to the American Eagle President at the time.
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:37 AM
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^^^This. Guys around here can't see the forest for the trees.
Says the guy not flying an airplane.
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Old 02-03-2017, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President View Post
Says the guy not flying an airplane.
Several of your co workers above seem to have no problem with the company. Are you slowly drifting to the totally negative side thinking the world owes you something. You say you are an FO. I bet you were extremely excited just a few years ago when you were hired.
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:36 AM
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Several of your co workers above seem to have no problem with the company. Are you slowly drifting to the totally negative side thinking the world owes you something. You say you are an FO. I bet you were extremely excited just a few years ago when you were hired.
What problem do I have with the company?

Was I excited about coming to a company that threatened to shut us down??? Was I excited about coming to a company that closed two bases because we didn't want to take another concessionary contract?? Was I excited about coming to a company where I could be based at home but told me I would be permanently based in NY or ORD and unable to get DFW based? No not at all. I knew I was coming into a sh*t storm WITHOUT flow when I was a new hire. I had so many people think I was crazy for coming here with all that was going on. I have my reasons for wanting to come here but I won't go into them.

I got excited when a displacement came and I got DFW. I got excited when I found out I was going to 12,500 bonus. I got excited when I heard I'll get 20k over two years. I was excited when they announced the Flex pay. I got excited about FINALLY getting off reserve and having some movement when all the new hires started showing up. I'm excited that I might actually make CA this year.

I don't see where you read negativity in my post. I do my best to express an accurate picture of what it's like working here. I have a very positive outlook going forward on some issues. However the scheduling/QOL issues are not one of them.

You should never bet or try to figure someone out because you are way off the mark for me. I'm actually more positive now than I have ever been about the future here.

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Old 02-03-2017, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700 View Post
Several of your co workers above seem to have no problem with the company. Are you slowly drifting to the totally negative side thinking the world owes you something. You say you are an FO. I bet you were extremely excited just a few years ago when you were hired.

I wouldnt say no problem....... Im very disappointed in the schedules and reserve rules. Its something that really needs to be addressed. Also we have one base that feels like your dealing with a middle school principle every time you goto work. Theres zero reason for it and I do think people quit and bad mouth on here because of it.


HOWEVER, it is nice to see NY back, to see positive movement, and to see things starting to turn around long term. Envoy/Eagle has always had properly maintained airplanes. This isnt a fly by night operation like some other bottom feeding regionals. I personally think it can be alot worst.
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:51 AM
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Just some musings. Pedro I wonder what would have happened if you did say you had it out for the company out of anger or frustration with these cheerleaders. Would they get your info via court order and fire/sue your butt like the envoy volunteers that are no longer with envoy. For the record frustration with blatant cheerleaders and their ilk is directed at them and their alternative facts/lack of empathy to the real world current conditions. People that work at envoy want to work there until they leave on their terms. They also want their time in pergutory to be as smooth as possible and when management puppets like cr700 get on here and say all is well when it isn't really chaps line pilots asse$
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Old 02-03-2017, 08:28 AM
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Several of your co workers above seem to have no problem with the company. Are you slowly drifting to the totally negative side thinking the world owes you something. You say you are an FO. I bet you were extremely excited just a few years ago when you were hired.
Do you use the CPO computers or your phone, Andi?
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Old 02-03-2017, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by lakehouse View Post
When your mad about how many guys off the top go-to mainline.......... It's such an awful REGIONAL airline
Who said we're mad about flows? We are just annoyed when people are dishonest about the actual numbers, then have the gall to come on here accusing others of dishonesty.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President View Post
What problem do I have with the company?

Was I excited about coming to a company that threatened to shut us down??? Was I excited about coming to a company that closed two bases because we didn't want to take another concessionary contract?? Was I excited about coming to a company where I could be based at home but told me I would be permanently based in NY or ORD and unable to get DFW based? No not at all. I knew I was coming into a sh*t storm WITHOUT flow when I was a new hire. I had so many people think I was crazy for coming here with all that was going on. I have my reasons for wanting to come here but I won't go into them.

I got excited when a displacement came and I got DFW. I got excited when I found out I was going to 12,500 bonus. I got excited when I heard I'll get 20k over two years. I was excited when they announced the Flex pay. I got excited about FINALLY getting off reserve and having some movement when all the new hires started showing up. I'm excited that I might actually make CA this year.

I don't see where you read negativity in my post. I do my best to express an accurate picture of what it's like working here. I have a very positive outlook going forward on some issues. However the scheduling/QOL issues are not one of them.

You should never bet or try to figure someone out because you are way off the mark for me. I'm actually more positive now than I have ever been about the future here.
You certainly don't sound like you have a positive outlook here. I'm sorry you feel that way. Hopefully it wasn't the doom and gloomers that keep showing up here that turned you against the company. Envoy has a very bright future and the majority of the pilots here are happy. Everyone is going to AA, including you. Ignore the negativity that pops up here from time to time and just focus on the good.
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Old 02-03-2017, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by cr700 View Post
Several of your co workers above seem to have no problem with the company. Are you slowly drifting to the totally negative side thinking the world owes you something. You say you are an FO. I bet you were extremely excited just a few years ago when you were hired.
You know the old saying here, you can only get fired here if you lie, cheat, or steal? Well, you lied about 40/month (or at the very least, mislead) so all I'm asking for is an admission of guilt. Can you do that for us? Or is admitting fault beneath you?
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