Contract 2018
09-12-2018, 04:27 PM
#363
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It IS a thing, but we weren’t supposed to know about it. It was supposed to be redacted from the document given to us, but they forgot. So they reissued the TA with that part taken out, but it obviously still exists and obviously now the cat’s out of the bag and everyone and their brother knows about it.
09-12-2018, 04:29 PM
#365
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Originally Posted by savedbythevnav
Okay, so is the INC contingency a thing or no?
If it's not in the contract then I'd imagine no.
If it's not in the contract then I'd imagine no.
Do we know for sure the "oopsies" contingency published in the TA and later edited off the document is the secret contingency? No, we don't. It could be something totally different. But the assumption most are making is that this is indeed the secret contingency.
So we can't answer your question. There's no way for us to confirm this right now.
09-12-2018, 04:52 PM
#366
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Originally Posted by Gooose
You guys can get more. Most FO's at C5 are getting these rates. I know shiny jets are what got C5 their current contract so spare me the story because the contract SUCKS.
Don't let the timeline scare you. The timeline is made-up crap. Just like it was for C5.
Don't let the timeline scare you. The timeline is made-up crap. Just like it was for C5.
What you deceivingly didn't post is that C5 is paying captain rates for FOs. The reason for that is the real kicker. I wonder how long this will last.
C5's actual FO rates are similar to XJT's current rates.
09-12-2018, 05:44 PM
#367
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So what if someone works more than 80 hours a month? You guys are trying to use a set bonus and attribute an hourly rate to it. Anyone working more will get less per hour. More airplanes means more hours. Again, seems like fuzzy math.
09-12-2018, 08:15 PM
#368
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
The red line is the XJT TA (including the EQO). The top line is Endeavor. The dashed blue line is the industry average.
I apologize by the bad resolution.
The XJT TA FO 70+ seat rate is the same as the 50 seat rate.
*The EQO adds $8.33/hr to captain rates and $10.42/hr to FO rates.
CA: $2000 quarterly divided by 240 hours
FO: $2500 quarterly divided by 240 hours
I apologize by the bad resolution.
The XJT TA FO 70+ seat rate is the same as the 50 seat rate.
*The EQO adds $8.33/hr to captain rates and $10.42/hr to FO rates.
CA: $2000 quarterly divided by 240 hours
FO: $2500 quarterly divided by 240 hours
If you are flying a premium trip at say 200%, your only getting 200% of your contractual rate, not 200% of this BS “EQO included rate”.
If you credit more than 70hrs, every hour over 70 is done at the flat rate.
09-12-2018, 08:17 PM
#369
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Check again, RAH is there.
09-12-2018, 08:20 PM
#370
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Multiply the new hourly rate by 75, and then multiply that by 12. Add $8000 if you’re a CA, $10000 if you’re an FO. If that’s not enough for you, then vote no and keep what you have now. (Which is far less)
-anybody else find it very interesting how many OTHER regionals’ pilots are chiming in to say what a bad deal this is? Almost like they want it to fail? Wonder why........
-anybody else find it very interesting how many OTHER regionals’ pilots are chiming in to say what a bad deal this is? Almost like they want it to fail? Wonder why........
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