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Old 09-12-2018 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
A appreciate the posting and charts and hoping someone in Sapa with snap shot them for when we get company charts in a month or two.



Republic 2018 pay?!? SkyWest is about to move to 2019 pay with or without the current negotiations.

What does that average line include because that is going to move if expressjet/ASA go from the bottom to third.

I believe the average does NOT include the XJT TA pay rates and EQO. The chart shows that XJT would move to second.
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Old 09-12-2018 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Melit
By who and why? Because United is not buying xjet? So OO is still pulling the strings? What if OO tells United no thanks we can't staff any new airframes or they don't want to invest millions of dollars to start the 175 program? Maybe the clause was dropped but still applies? You know, a loop hole type deal?
Tell us again who you work for? Seems to be a hard question for you!!!
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Old 09-12-2018 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevjets

*The EQO adds $8.33/hr to captain rates and $10.42/hr to FO rates.

CA: $2000 quarterly divided by 240 hours
FO: $2500 quarterly divided by 240 hours

You should be dividing the Override by 210, not 240. That makes it:
$11.90/hr FO
$9.52/hr CA

You must maintain a 70 hour monthly average throughout the quarter (210 total). So you can drop below 70 some months and make it up on the other months.
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Old 09-12-2018 | 02:09 PM
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You guys can get more. Most FO's at C5 are getting these rates. I know shiny jets are what got C5 their current contract so spare me the story because the contract SUCKS.

Don't let the timeline scare you. The timeline is made-up crap. Just like it was for C5.

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Old 09-12-2018 | 02:11 PM
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Contingency #2 has not been "dropped." The agreement is still in effect. The language referred to before was not approved for release, and therefore was removed.

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Old 09-12-2018 | 03:18 PM
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What’s EQO?
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Old 09-12-2018 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RoyerYetlink
You should be dividing the Override by 210, not 240. That makes it:

$11.90/hr FO

$9.52/hr CA



You must maintain a 70 hour monthly average throughout the quarter (210 total). So you can drop below 70 some months and make it up on the other months.

Yeah, but that’s not how the EQO was computed for the purposes of the charts. The 210 hour divisor would equate to a higher pay rate. But ALPA used the 240 hours (3 months at 80 hours) because that’s probably what they used to convert the $2k from the captains EQO into pay rates. They probably used that figure because it’s about the average the lines are built.
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Old 09-12-2018 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pilot2804
What’s EQO?
It's "Earned Quarterly Override." It's an additional $10000 per year for FOs and $8000 per year to CAs, paid quarterly, as long as they average at least 70 credit hours per month in the preceding quarter.

Unlike a bonus, it is contractual and can't be pulled away at the whim of the company.
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Originally Posted by Nevjets
Yeah, but that’s not how the EQO was computed for the purposes of the charts. The 210 hour divisor would equate to a higher pay rate. But ALPA used the 240 hours (3 months at 80 hours) because that’s probably what they used to convert the $2k from the captains EQO into pay rates. They probably used that figure because it’s about the average the lines are built.
I stand corrected. I was just going off of the minimum quarterly hours you would have to fly to get all of the EQO (210). I didn’t realize 240 was how they made the charts. Thanks.
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Old 09-12-2018 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
The 20 175’s are still in Section 6. Only the ownership part was dropped. Clauses dropped from contracts never apply.
It’s Section 28, actually.
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