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Old 11-12-2018 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
It amazes me that Skywest has now almost fully consumed the ASA side's flying. They have an ATL, DTW, DFW and LGA base. I think CLE and EWR are next for them and sayonara XJT.
It will be fully consumed come the end of January, won’t it? There is the scenario of the XJT side getting consumed by SkyWest like the ASA side was.

The optimistic side of me says that United is wanting to do an asset purchase of the XJT side and really can’t do that until the ASA side is completely shut down. And, that is why I think January 31st was baked into TA.

We keep hearing the rumor that 10 of these Ejets are promised to RAH. What happens if XJet only gets 15?
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Old 11-12-2018 | 05:06 PM
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The sad reality is they need to figure out a way to bring down the absurdly high longevity we have. Almost half of the people holding a captain slot are topped out on the payscale. Upgrades are still 7 years. I don’t see how we can have any future competing with places that have low longevity, 1 to 2 year CAs working under terrible contracts and QOL so people bail after a few years. Keeping them cost competitive. Reality... who is staying at Mesa, CommutAir or Gojet for 18 plus years. Probably not too many.
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Old 11-12-2018 | 05:41 PM
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Making XJT a good enough place to stay is what killed it.
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Old 11-13-2018 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DirkDiggler
The sad reality is they need to figure out a way to bring down the absurdly high longevity we have. Almost half of the people holding a captain slot are topped out on the payscale. Upgrades are still 7 years. I don’t see how we can have any future competing with places that have low longevity, 1 to 2 year CAs working under terrible contracts and QOL so people bail after a few years. Keeping them cost competitive. Reality... who is staying at Mesa, CommutAir or Gojet for 18 plus years. Probably not too many.
On the CRJ side Mesa have plenty of 18+ year captains. It routinely takes a couple of years to hold a line at senior bases.

Mesa’s contract is structured so it is hard to cross between aircraft. That makes the new aircraft junior (like the Ejet) for both FO and CA.
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Old 11-13-2018 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
It will be fully consumed come the end of January, won’t it? There is the scenario of the XJT side getting consumed by SkyWest like the ASA side was.

The optimistic side of me says that United is wanting to do an asset purchase of the XJT side and really can’t do that until the ASA side is completely shut down. And, that is why I think January 31st was baked into TA.

We keep hearing the rumor that 10 of these Ejets are promised to RAH. What happens if XJet only gets 15?
Who is we?? If RAH gets 10 my bet would be OO gets the other 15.......
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Old 11-13-2018 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Melit
Who is we?? If RAH gets 10 my bet would be OO gets the other 15.......
I’ve heard our CEO (your CEO) say it takes 50 aircraft minimum to make a fleet type work... So, if Inc is saying you will get 25, and they are keeping XJT then they need to figure out how to secure more... or whoever is going to buy XJT. Needs to figure out if they can get more..

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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Melit
Who is we?? If RAH gets 10 my bet would be OO gets the other 15.......
One of our VP’s was told by United that RAH is getting at least 10. Now, we all know how management can make things up.
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
I’ve heard our CEO (your CEO) say it takes 50 aircraft minimum to make a fleet type work... So, if Inc is saying you will get 25, and they are keeping XJT then they need to figure out how to secure more... or whoever is going to buy XJT. Needs to figure out if they can get more..
Or, whoever is buying XJT already has 25....
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Old 11-13-2018 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by calmwinds
Or, whoever is buying XJT already has 25....
Why are people saying XJT is being purchased?
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Old 11-13-2018 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
Why are people saying XJT is being purchased?
No one is saying its for sure, that may have been the plan 8 months ago. Just like TSA/Compass ect.. things change all the time. But there are signals of it. The pilot TA had a “oops” provision in it. That got retracted. The fact they aren’t switching to ipads, and aligning themselves with only one major (UA). Ect... but things change faster in the regional world then we can keep up with. Yesterday’s plan is old by next week..
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