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Old 04-09-2020 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR
If you guys are looking to interview once again when are all the new hires who were furloughed from the training center being called back?
furlough = involuntary leave without pay or benefits.

Are the new hires in training furloughed? Or just sent home with pay and their EFB to start class at a later date?
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Old 04-09-2020 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
Mesa owns 30 of the 60 that we have, and the 20 we have purchased.
Mesa owns 18 of the 60 you guys fly. Check the SEC filing:

http://investor.mesa-air.com/static-...e-1550c9338d42
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Old 04-10-2020 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
Mesa owns 30 of the 60 that we have, and the 20 we have purchased.
*the 20 Mesa is going to purchase*

Mesa hasn’t purchased those 20 175s yet. They are still a UAL order at Embraer and under UAL control. Mesa doesn’t take ownership or have to supply financing for the planes until delivery. Given the current global economic conditions that will be delayed a few months. Even Mesa’s management isn’t crooked enough to take on debt in a cash strapped environment.


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Old 04-10-2020 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by watch
furlough = involuntary leave without pay or benefits.

Are the new hires in training furloughed? Or just sent home with pay and their EFB to start class at a later date?
No one in training has been furloughed.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by XJTFO
No one in training has been furloughed.
All that talk was in reference to a Mesa recruiter posting here. XJT has not furloughed yet.

Mesa furloughed everyone from training.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
*the 20 Mesa is going to purchase*

Mesa hasn’t purchased those 20 175s yet. They are still a UAL order at Embraer and under UAL control. Mesa doesn’t take ownership or have to supply financing for the planes until delivery. Given the current global economic conditions that will be delayed a few months. Even Mesa’s management isn’t crooked enough to take on debt in a cash strapped environment.


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Somehow I don’t see Mesa coming up with the funds. The funding bill only pays for payroll. Mesa will have a difficult enough time paying for the few planes they currently own without bringing others on. Not enough cash flow with the reduced schedules.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 07:23 AM
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It will be interesting to see if Mesa can still pony up the cash for those jets after all this.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
*the 20 Mesa is going to purchase*

Mesa hasn’t purchased those 20 175s yet. They are still a UAL order at Embraer and under UAL control. Mesa doesn’t take ownership or have to supply financing for the planes until delivery. Given the current global economic conditions that will be delayed a few months. Even Mesa’s management isn’t crooked enough to take on debt in a cash strapped environment.


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Whether you want to believe it or not. We are getting them and they are coming (20 More Ejets). We are setting up interviews as I write. I don't know who holds the crystal ball, but I know my management team, just like yours does not live in the present. Mesa along with the other regionals are planning on the rebound in the future whatever that may be. I just know, we are prepping for the rebound just like your company is. This sucks right now but there is a glimmer of hope. I just hope no other companies have to fall.
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Old 04-10-2020 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
Whether you want to believe it or not. We are getting them and they are coming (20 More Ejets). We are setting up interviews as I write. I don't know who holds the crystal ball, but I know my management team, just like yours does not live in the present. Mesa along with the other regionals are planning on the rebound in the future whatever that may be. I just know, we are prepping for the rebound just like your company is. This sucks right now but there is a glimmer of hope. I just hope no other companies have to fall.

I don’t doubt that Mesa is getting them. Your CEO decided to leverage the company with debt to get them. And in United’s eye it was the best financial decision to award them to Mesa under the circumstances.

I’m just correcting your misrepresentation of the fact. You haven’t bought them. Your employer hasn’t either. They are on someone else’s order. Your employer will not be taking delivery of them starting in May, doing so would be economically stupid.

Also the 550 project has been put on hold so the 700’s that Mesa was going to take out of service to be converted into the 550’s won’t be leaving the line for a while. Which also means there isn’t much room left under the scope.

It takes cash to pay for Shiny New Jets. With UAL’s traffic down 60+%. Mesa isn’t getting the flights it needs for revenue to pay the current bills, and with the 700’s not going out on lease Mesa definitely doesn’t have the cash to pay for the new 175s.

And I don’t doubt Mesa is conducting interviews, XJT is too.

And stop say “We” like you have a part in the process. You don’t those decisions are made way above your pay grade.


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Old 04-10-2020 | 10:23 AM
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lol @ anybody conducting interviews. No Regional is going to hire a single pilot until sometime next year at the earliest.
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