So you're saying all the 175's that SkyWest, Inc. has purchased are going to SkyWest Airlines? Nothing to XJT? Could SkyWest, Inc. be following RAH's lead and planning to have XJT go the way of Chautauqua?

If this does happen, the only difference I see between XJT and Chautauqua is that the XJT pilots would NOT be reabsorbed somewhere at SkyWest like the Chautauqua pilots were at Republic and Shuttle. Do I have this correct?

Say what you want about Republic, but at least the Chautauqua pilots were placed elsewhere when RAH decided to shrink them.

Is there any saving grace for XJT at all here? Any rumors of Inc giving them bigger aircraft? Rumors of XJT pilots being reabsorbed in the SkyWest system? Anything to help the XJT pilots see a light at the end of the tunnel?

 

The short answer is no. XJT turned down their JCBA, there will be no good news until that is resolved. That's just how it works in the airline bargaining world. SkyWest approved their pay package making St George happy, they get the spoils. Good news is, anybody trying to grow right now or simply staff what they have is growing increasingly difficult as nobody can keep up with attrition.

AnchorDown

 

Skywest cannot operate all the 175s with current routes/staffing. Xjt will get the planes if we are going to get them regardless of contract. Don't drink the koolaide of take concessions or no new planes. I'm glad only 17% are dumb enough to believe them

 

You seem to forget that the 200s will slowly go away. The 175's are what mainline wants, not 50seat weight restricted RJs. As 200's go away, those pilots will simply transfer to the 175 or MRJ when the time comes.

The amount of money that XJT loses on a daily bases, I find it very hard to believe that you'll get new airframes unless you all turn it around quick. The last quarterly call didn't seem too promising...

As for staffing, so far so good. Classes have been in 30-40 range. How long that will last is anyone's guess.

 

Who cares! We know the 200s are going away and we sealed the deal with NO! There are so many people in this place so sick of mis-management in this place they will not be willing to jumpship to skywest. They are already exploring options for less pay, more QoL. A lot are looking foreign, cargo, back to flight instructing, or majors. I for one will NOT be taking any paycut to put up with this pie-hole.

So if we don't get 175s, screw em! Try to staff those 400 shiny RJs with little transfer from XJT.

I'm tired of doing other people's job.

 

Nothing’s changed since SkyWest bought ExpressJet, they knew what the labor cost were and they knew what kind of rates xjet was getting. Getting the 175s is probably the only thing that will help them as it will shrink the total upside down rates on the little ships, and increase the rates for the larger aircraft.



Any ship that xjet parks is a good thing:


1) It creates room for a new ship in this environment
2) New ships are more profitable (Republic showed us this already)
3) If xjet parks a ship that losses money and doesn’t furlough, it’s a win
for the pilots and the balance sheet



If Express jet pilots are unhappy about lights and tunnels, they need to realize that they are potentially going to ride out a contract that was apparently signed below cost and never really suffered from it, except for a little stagnation, which by the way, everyone else suffered from. The day to be unhappy was the day you realized that mgmt signed a deal at a loss just to keep you busy and live for another day. I am not meaning to sound negative; I would like to work at ExpressJet and am very happy for them and the vote outcome. I do think Inc. will send new planes their way, if for no other reason to slow or stop the bleeding.

 

Dear Skywest pilots, please, please begin to accept that XJT is going to be merged into Skywest or Skywest into XJT. There is no point to any other idea. Inc. just haven't decided how best to abandon the XJT merger and get the new plan rolling. They will not be wasting another 3 years on a failed merger when they know the endgame is something else anyway. They are already installing Skywest management in positions in Atlanta. They are in the process of choosing which threats to use with each side to weaken both going into this new mess.

The day RAH settles their contract, they will be coming at us. The longer RAH takes, the more complicated it becomes for Inc. because those airplanes are on the way, and they need to know how big a hammer to hit us with.

If you are a new hire, the best thing to do is consider Skywest and XJT to be the same company because they're going to be. Go to the side that is the best commute to where you live.

 

April 1st ain't for a few more weeks bro.

 

Two words. Not happening.

 

What makes EXJ so expensive and money losing operation in your eyes?