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Old 09-27-2014 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainNameless
I think the "capture market share" idea is interesting. But really, where are the grounded flights going to be? The regionals, because those are the pilots who will be leaving by the hundreds soon. Solutions? Do those flights on mainline equipment, or find a way to keep the regionals staffed to do it. Or a workable combination of both. Or buy a supply of pilots, do away with scope problems, and end the FFD system on your terms, not terms dictated by the regional vendor's soon to be very serious pilot staffing issues.

I have no idea what the real solution will look like. Seems like every regional is still a place to leave as soon as possible, with some fairly limited retention/flow programs at DAL and AA. All the majors seem to be content to play the regional pilot steal/swap game. So it's difficult to see why would one player move to change that game in some way. Streamlined training? Reduced downtime of pilot supply?
The newest rumors have American pushing for scope increases at the regionals. If they were successful in bumping it up into the high 80's, virtually any route could be served by aircraft like that with just a little extra frequency. They'd knock out two birds with one stone; do the flights on mainline equipment and keep the regionals staffed. Let's hope the mainline guys hold their ground on scope.
Old 09-27-2014 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
The newest rumors have American pushing for scope increases at the regionals. If they were successful in bumping it up into the high 80's, virtually any route could be served by aircraft like that with just a little extra frequency. They'd knock out two birds with one stone; do the flights on mainline equipment and keep the regionals staffed. Let's hope the mainline guys hold their ground on scope.
Just changing scope doesn't keep anything staffed. I really don't see their play here. It is a discount maneuver for the mainline contracts. Doesn't mean they will find anyone to show up to be a 10 year FO at 4th year pay forever... Forget that. When Asia is hiring at $15-22k month? When Emirates can't get 5 guys to show up to a job fair? Majors need to turn a deaf ear to ANY scope relief. 20 years of stupidity is more than enough, especially just when the money is starting to come back to the career. They took half our careers away. We're keeping the other half.
Old 09-27-2014 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
The newest rumors have American pushing for scope increases at the regionals. If they were successful in bumping it up into the high 80's, virtually any route could be served by aircraft like that with just a little extra frequency. They'd knock out two birds with one stone; do the flights on mainline equipment and keep the regionals staffed. Let's hope the mainline guys hold their ground on scope.
If mainline caves on scope (let's hope they don't) then all of Inc's options for jumbo RJ's make sense.
Old 09-27-2014 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
If mainline caves on scope (let's hope they don't) then all of Inc's options for jumbo RJ's make sense.
There does not need to be a cave on scope for Inc. to make out just fine on their orders/options. 1) Direct sale-transfer at modest profit or 2) Inc. supplies everything under contract but the pilots.
Old 09-28-2014 | 07:31 AM
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Scope will be gone either through a vote or BK. Companies don't order a/c without somewhere to fly them nor will a bank give the money without proof they can pay. You guys are dreaming if you think mainline anyone is gonna be flying 190's. USAir's will be the next to go!
Old 09-28-2014 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot
Scope will be gone either through a vote or BK. Companies don't order a/c without somewhere to fly them nor will a bank give the money without proof they can pay. You guys are dreaming if you think mainline anyone is gonna be flying 190's. USAir's will be the next to go!
Speaking of dreaming....
Old 09-28-2014 | 07:20 PM
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Pretty boring around here now that Captain Tony, JoeMerchant, and Bozo have been muzzled....
Old 09-28-2014 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Swingline
Pretty boring around here now that Captain Tony, JoeMerchant, and Bozo have been muzzled....
Were they banned from this forum? Might as well add Nevets.
Old 09-29-2014 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Swingline
Pretty boring around here now that Captain Tony, JoeMerchant, and Bozo have been muzzled....
Bahahahaha. Grow up junior.
Old 09-29-2014 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Swingline
Pretty boring around here now that Captain Tony, JoeMerchant, and Bozo have been muzzled....
i haven't been muzzled. Just nothing interesting enough to comment on.
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