What's the Latest at ASA/Expressjet?
#8591
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2. Demand a new software? The ASA MEC was presented about 5 different solutions to end this reasonably and fairly and yet here you are. They aren't willing to consider it, didn't want to educate themselves on it, and believed that they would be rewarded by management for making the erj side appear unwilling to negotiate. They weren't negotiating in good faith and even though this PBS agreement is done it will just roll to the next issue that is on the list. Flightline is an old, outdated software that doesn't fit the needs of 2/3 of the combined pilot group. The erj side did their homework and picked their software carefully. Having their opposition still posting half truths and attacking the software based on incorrect assumptions is petty and ignorant. I don't have a very high view of anything down in Atlanta based on our management while I worked at xjt but this spectacle with your MEC is truly embarrassing.
#8592
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From: EMB 145 CPT
I'm just stating what the xjt MEC said. We will soon find out if they are correct on this.
I was going to respond, but having read your stuff for a long time, it is obvious that you really don't get it. You have no idea what I have or have not done, nor who I have or have not spoken to, so your accusations are baseless. You appear, unfortunately, hopeless, and if you are representative of the ERJ side, our company is as well.
Wait, what accusations? You are the one who talked about unity as if the xjt MEC are the ones who pushed this issue to arbitration. Your MEC lost and on the same day they put out another half truth immaculate video about smartpref. Where is the unity in that?
The issue is resolved now. Both sides should just move on now and present us a non-concessionary TA.
What is it you don't get that you keep flight line for the duration of a JCBA. If smartpref is as horrible as you make it out to be and flight line as the nirvana you make it out to be, the issue will take care of itself. If there is no JCBA then you keep flight line in perpetuity. So what's the problem?
#8593
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Where is ExpressJet training conducted? Do they do sims in a variety of places like a lot of airlines are doing these days?
#8594
On a lighter note, did you all see the email from the company titled 'cost to carry"? I hope you write them one of the best ways to save fuel without jeopardizing safety is to have EFB and carry 60lbs less per flight!
#8595
Nevets must be an autonomous robot that was programmed by the XTJ MEC to continually repeat its self and argue the same point over and over again, then ask what's the problem. It also has the capability to scour other threads and tell everyone how much better the L-XJT contract is and make sure they understand that they work for a sub par, bottom feeding regional airline, and that XJT is the greatest regional airline to ever navigate the skies. It obviously cannot comprehend why some oppose a divided contract however, or form rational thoughts of its own
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#8596
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Limiting the flight attendants to carrying only *half* of their worldly possessions on a trip would also save a lot of L-Bs.
#8597
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ASA is in ATL. I assume it's all done at ATL Flight Safety, but I'm sure they've sent people to others in the past.
#8598
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From: EMB 145 CPT
Nevets must be an autonomous robot that was programmed by the XTJ MEC to continually repeat its self and argue the same point over and over again, then ask what's the problem. It also has the capability to scour other threads and tell everyone how much better the L-XJT contract is and make sure they understand that they work for a sub par, bottom feeding regional airline, and that XJT is the greatest regional airline to ever navigate the skies. It obviously cannot comprehend why some oppose a divided contract however, or form rational thoughts of its own
Well, others keep saying the same thing over and over again so I just repeat my reply back to them. I don't favor separate contracts if we could bring the ASA one up to ours but you guys seem to think that will never happen. So yeah, I oppose 2/3 of the pilots taking concessions just for the sake of combining operations. I don't understand how hard that is for you guys to comprehend.
As for contract comparisons with TSA, I'm just pointing out to them that theirs is average, not above average as many of their pilots are claiming. It's no different than how you guys felt towards your contract before the merger. If people think their contract is above average when it's not, then they will most likely settle for less. Kind of the way you guys are with wanting us to give up the good parts of our contract just to get a deal done.
#8599
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XJT is in IAH for ground school. The sims are likely to be in IAH at the XJT training center. They have in the past sent people to HOU, CVG, STL, and a few other places when the in-house sims were full.
ASA is in ATL. I assume it's all done at ATL Flight Safety, but I'm sure they've sent people to others in the past.
ASA is in ATL. I assume it's all done at ATL Flight Safety, but I'm sure they've sent people to others in the past.
I didn't realize ASA and ExpressJet had separate training locations...
#8600
As for contract comparisons with TSA, I'm just pointing out to them that theirs is average, not above average as many of their pilots are claiming. It's no different than how you guys felt towards your contract before the merger. If people think their contract is above average when it's not, then they will most likely settle for less. Kind of the way you guys are with wanting us to give up the good parts of our contract just to get a deal done.
Is TSA's contract that was below average at the end of November now average because Envoy's contract isn't as good as it was then? I'm just really curious about this. I'm not trying to give you a hard time.
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