Class drops..
08-27-2022 | 11:06 AM
#1101
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Yep same people recycle. How many people have contacted their rep about or candidate running for ALPA First VP? Only reason he isn't running for president is no way would a FedEx pilot hold that spot two times in a row. WR has very little time as a line pilot.
08-27-2022 | 02:49 PM
#1102
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Class drops..
You argument earlier in the thread for keeping our current bid system (bid in order to bid), is that we lose fast upgrades. Other airlines, including delta, shows that not to be the case.
Let’s face it, the system we are stuck with right now is due to the fact that it gives management way more control than competing systems. The paint point in our system is abrogation of seniority, which other competing systems seem to mitigate a lot better. So let’s look at them, all.
08-28-2022 | 01:56 AM
#1103
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You argument earlier in the thread for keeping our current bid system (bid in order to bid), is that we lose fast upgrades. Other airlines, including delta, shows that not to be the case.
Let’s face it, the system we are stuck with right now is due to the fact that it gives management way more control than competing systems. The paint point in our system is abrogation of seniority, which other competing systems seem to mitigate a lot better. So let’s look at them, all.
Let’s face it, the system we are stuck with right now is due to the fact that it gives management way more control than competing systems. The paint point in our system is abrogation of seniority, which other competing systems seem to mitigate a lot better. So let’s look at them, all.
08-28-2022 | 02:41 AM
#1104
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DL has long large bids like FDX. Most airlines have fast upgrades currently. Our mega bid system allows larger movements to higher paying seats quicker. I could care less if we kept our current system or not. Simply saying no system is without it’s warts. Is it really something we want changed over the numerous other things? It has worked for me changing numerous airplanes and bases.
08-28-2022 | 04:34 AM
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DL has long large bids like FDX. Most airlines have fast upgrades currently. Our mega bid system allows larger movements to higher paying seats quicker. I could care less if we kept our current system or not. Simply saying no system is without it’s warts. Is it really something we want changed over the numerous other things? It has worked for me changing numerous airplanes and bases.
Yeah, it’s definitely something to look at changing among a lot of other things. This current negotiations we asked to change a couple dozen specific items. So I don’t see why this couldn’t be at least one of another couple dozen items to improve for next round.
08-28-2022 | 06:39 AM
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DL has long large bids like FDX. Most airlines have fast upgrades currently. Our mega bid system allows larger movements to higher paying seats quicker. I could care less if we kept our current system or not. Simply saying no system is without it’s warts. Is it really something we want changed over the numerous other things? It has worked for me changing numerous airplanes and bases.
They upgrades will still happen at the same rate no matter what since demand will not change.
08-28-2022 | 09:08 AM
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Hey man, as I stated previously, DL has moved from large bids to smaller, more frequent bids. And guess what, they still have jr NB/WB upgrades. Call one one of your buddies from DL and ask.
They upgrades will still happen at the same rate no matter what since demand will not change.
They upgrades will still happen at the same rate no matter what since demand will not change.
Our last bid happened a year after the prior one. Even though originally it was stated it would be a 18-20 month bid.
As I stated i’m all for changes but not at the expense of higher priorities such as pay, retirement, deviation bank fixes, scope improvements, revision improvements, etc. I looked again in the openers document on the contract page and don’t see this in the openers. Im guessing in the surveys many didn’t have this as a priority either since it is not in the openers.
08-28-2022 | 05:48 PM
#1109
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DL has long large bids like FDX. Most airlines have fast upgrades currently. Our mega bid system allows larger movements to higher paying seats quicker. I could care less if we kept our current system or not. Simply saying no system is without it’s warts. Is it really something we want changed over the numerous other things? It has worked for me changing numerous airplanes and bases.
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