Vaccine Stance
#271
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Joined APC: May 2018
Position: DC-3 / Braniff
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What does "your rights end where mine begin" mean that you wrote? I must not comprehension too good because I read that to mean you want the vax mandated for all employees and they don't have the right to remain unvaxxed. What was the point of your post, please help me to understand because you could have valuable insight to add to this discussion! DR K
#272
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My “conclusion” is that you have a sense of superiority over anyone who doesn’t agree with you because just maybe, they have a different framework of values and principals. Instead of opening your mind and considering other people have their own beliefs, you just just plug your ears like a little kid and lash out at their appearance instead because you have no real substance to bring to the table.
#273
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD11 Captain
Posts: 364
Yeah, you’re right bud. I’m just confused. Must be the Trump (er, I mean Biden) vaccine wreaking havoc! Against my better instincts I waded into this nonsense in a moment of weakness. Sometimes the idiocy level gets high enough it’s hard not to comment. I’m happy to discuss this with anyone in person but I’m not about to try to have a nuanced discussion with faceless alter egos. You wanna know how I actually feel, PM me and we can talk over beers on the road.
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#274
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
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I am wondering when enough is enough for the others that speak so passionately about the dangers posed by the unvaxxed.
When does their safety become more important than a paycheck?
Why don't they go somewhere safer that is not in conflict with their deeply-held values?
When will they start acting like they have morals and refuse to toil for a company that is complicit in the deaths of untold Americans?
Some might even say that working for a company that doesn't mandate the vaccine because of the great pay and benefits is a bit...selfish. DR K
#275
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Joined APC: May 2018
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If he is not pro-mandate, then I wouldn't expect him to resign in protest of the dangerous work environment allowed by his company. I guess I just misunderstood him.
I am wondering when enough is enough for the others that speak so passionately about the dangers posed by the unvaxxed.
When does their safety become more important than a paycheck?
Why don't they go somewhere safer that is not in conflict with their deeply-held values?
When will they start acting like they have morals and refuse to toil for a company that is complicit in the deaths of untold Americans?
Some might even say that working for a company that doesn't mandate the vaccine because of the great pay and benefits is a bit...selfish. DR K
I am wondering when enough is enough for the others that speak so passionately about the dangers posed by the unvaxxed.
When does their safety become more important than a paycheck?
Why don't they go somewhere safer that is not in conflict with their deeply-held values?
When will they start acting like they have morals and refuse to toil for a company that is complicit in the deaths of untold Americans?
Some might even say that working for a company that doesn't mandate the vaccine because of the great pay and benefits is a bit...selfish. DR K
#277
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,236
Since all of you fascists are emphatically declaring this a moral issue by stating that the unvaccinated could "kill you" or others, your employer is de facto immoral, reckless, and deadly by not mandating the vaccine to protect you and their other employees.
If you had actual moral compasses or backbones, you would have already submitted your resignation letter in a disgusted response to your immoral employer's vaccine mandate inaction and found another job. There are several airlines that require vaccinations in this situation which would be a better fit for your ideologies concerning informed medical consent in the USA.
Until you do tender your resignations, either your greed surpasses your morals or you are liars/psychopaths/sociopaths and you can keep typing until the cows come home since you have no credibility. I'd bet three year's worth of well-stacked pancakes that none of you resigns in protest to your employer's despicable lack of action. (feel free to insert any of the other descriptors you have used like disgusting, conspiratorial, selfish, etc)
Either way, I wouldn't be able to live with myself in your current situation since your morals are easily purchased by the pay and benefits provided by your employer. Happy job hunting, DR K
If you had actual moral compasses or backbones, you would have already submitted your resignation letter in a disgusted response to your immoral employer's vaccine mandate inaction and found another job. There are several airlines that require vaccinations in this situation which would be a better fit for your ideologies concerning informed medical consent in the USA.
Until you do tender your resignations, either your greed surpasses your morals or you are liars/psychopaths/sociopaths and you can keep typing until the cows come home since you have no credibility. I'd bet three year's worth of well-stacked pancakes that none of you resigns in protest to your employer's despicable lack of action. (feel free to insert any of the other descriptors you have used like disgusting, conspiratorial, selfish, etc)
Either way, I wouldn't be able to live with myself in your current situation since your morals are easily purchased by the pay and benefits provided by your employer. Happy job hunting, DR K
By the way... Who all is ready for open enrollment next month?
#278
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 95
Since the vast majority of companies in the US (notably in the airline industry) still do not require the vaccine (even after the executive order places additional threats to do so), they obviously do not share the moral argument of the mandate. Some companies will fight back and the legal challenges could last well beyond the forecasted month. Our country and industry are definitely at a crossroad and we will see which direction it turns.
Back to the real question which is based on your sincerely-held moral beliefs concerning the necessity of the vaccine to protect innocent life. If your employer received an exemption and did not require vaccination as terms for employment, could you ever see yourself working in such a dangerous and immoral environment? Thanks for your thoughtful consideration of this question. DR K
#280
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Joined APC: Aug 2019
Posts: 1,006
Maybe not. Any company that subscribes to the moral mandate for the vaccine would have required it the day after FDA approval.
Since the vast majority of companies in the US (notably in the airline industry) still do not require the vaccine (even after the executive order places additional threats to do so), they obviously do not share the moral argument of the mandate. Some companies will fight back and the legal challenges could last well beyond the forecasted month. Our country and industry are definitely at a crossroad and we will see which direction it turns.
Back to the real question which is based on your sincerely-held moral beliefs concerning the necessity of the vaccine to protect innocent life. If your employer received an exemption and did not require vaccination as terms for employment, could you ever see yourself working in such a dangerous and immoral environment? Thanks for your thoughtful consideration of this question. DR K
Since the vast majority of companies in the US (notably in the airline industry) still do not require the vaccine (even after the executive order places additional threats to do so), they obviously do not share the moral argument of the mandate. Some companies will fight back and the legal challenges could last well beyond the forecasted month. Our country and industry are definitely at a crossroad and we will see which direction it turns.
Back to the real question which is based on your sincerely-held moral beliefs concerning the necessity of the vaccine to protect innocent life. If your employer received an exemption and did not require vaccination as terms for employment, could you ever see yourself working in such a dangerous and immoral environment? Thanks for your thoughtful consideration of this question. DR K
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