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Old 05-31-2023 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nightrider
not meant that way, a lot of friends at fdx and they need to pay what you are worth.
id give you a B at best for your trolling attempts. Seriously, Atlas is done and you better protect your own house, I saw your cans being loaded today. Seems you’re cutting lots of flights etc. good luck and UPS really needs to pay you guys what you’re worth, 2027 isn’t to far away.
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Old 05-31-2023 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpletailed10
id give you a B at best for your trolling attempts. Seriously, Atlas is done and you better protect your own house, I saw your cans being loaded today. Seems you’re cutting lots of flights etc. good luck and UPS really needs to pay you guys what you’re worth, 2027 isn’t to far away.

Exactly and we will get what we are worth, but your contract plus would be a great start, then you guys build on us.
works really well.
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Old 05-31-2023 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by oncewasgood
UPS pays 5 hrs per vacation day and 3 hrs per day for reserve.
This is not accurate.

No need for measuring contests or throwing stones...this brown polyester wearer hopes y'all got something that earns your YES vote.
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Old 05-31-2023 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by nightrider
I believe 4400 going to 4650 by 2025 so 30 yrs is 139500, we don’t have the 260k irs cap written into our contract.
You really need to research retirements and what your A plan, or pension is. Your contract has nothing to do with the IRS because the IRS limits what you can make in a defined benefit plan. You do know the IRS limits yearly 401K contributions also?

The limitations on benefits and contributions for retirement plans are set forth in Code section 415. The annual benefit limitation for a defined benefit plan is $225,000 for 2019, $230,000 for 2020 and 2021, $245,000 for 2022 and $265,000 for 2023 (subject to cost-of-living adjustments for later years) for each employee. The limitation on annual contributions to a defined contribution plan is $56,000 for 2019, $57,000 for 2020, $58,000 in 2021, $61,000 in 2022 and $66,000 in 2023 (subject to cost-of-living adjustments for later years) for each employee.
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Old 05-31-2023 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
You really need to research retirements and what your A plan, or pension is. Your contract has nothing to do with the IRS because the IRS limits what you can make in a defined benefit plan. You do know the IRS limits yearly 401K contributions also?

The limitations on benefits and contributions for retirement plans are set forth in Code section 415. The annual benefit limitation for a defined benefit plan is $225,000 for 2019, $230,000 for 2020 and 2021, $245,000 for 2022 and $265,000 for 2023 (subject to cost-of-living adjustments for later years) for each employee. The limitation on annual contributions to a defined contribution plan is $56,000 for 2019, $57,000 for 2020, $58,000 in 2021, $61,000 in 2022 and $66,000 in 2023 (subject to cost-of-living adjustments for later years) for each employee.
agree with all that but you guys do have the 260k limit written in your contract which has reduced your benefit for many years, that is the limit you can be paid not how much the calculation can be figured on, if you guys would remove that limitation then many would have the 180k retirement you want with the a plan you guys have
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Old 05-31-2023 | 04:37 PM
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I don't have any strong opinions about your current contract, but I hope this TA knocks it out of the park, for all of our goods.
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Old 05-31-2023 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CardboardCutout
I don't have any strong opinions about your current contract, but I hope this TA knocks it out of the park, for all of our goods.
How embarrassing. A bunch of Purple fan boys trying to flex on pilots who do the same job that we do. We are all in this together and this is no way to approach fellow professionals.

I can give you the details on the Purple TA.

1. No Scope improvement.
2. Work rule concessions.
3. Pay lagging DL/AA.
4. Industry leading retirement*.

*if you already have 25+ YOS

This is another sellout of junior pilots to fatten the pockets of senior pilots on their way out.
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Old 05-31-2023 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
How embarrassing. A bunch of Purple fan boys trying to flex on pilots who do the same job that we do. We are all in this together and this is no way to approach fellow professionals.

I can give you the details on the Purple TA.

1. No Scope improvement.
2. Work rule concessions.
3. Pay lagging DL/AA.
4. Industry leading retirement*.

*if you already have 25+ YOS

This is another sellout of junior pilots to fatten the pockets of senior pilots on their way out.
Do you have inside knowledge of the actual verbiage of the TA?

Or are you just blowing smoke?
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Old 05-31-2023 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
Do you have inside knowledge of the actual verbiage of the TA?

Or are you just blowing smoke?
I have stayed in constant communication with my rep throughout the entire negotiation. This is what I expect. If I am wrong, I will admit it fully.
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Old 05-31-2023 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nightflyer
Do you have inside knowledge of the actual verbiage of the TA?

Or are you just blowing smoke?
How many times can PM be quoted saying “we’re gonna fix the pension!”???

I agree with UA.
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