Frontier Negotiations Discussion
10-23-2017, 03:32 AM
#393
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Originally Posted by motorboatin
The tone of your post was one of disappointment because the company showed up and put $'s on the table, and we wouldn't be released anytime soon. You're implying that you'd like a release. I'm wondering what you think happens after we are "released" from mediation?
10-23-2017, 09:50 AM
#394
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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE
A release would get you a contract a helluva lot sooner than the course you're on now. If you think you'll end up with a respectable contract via good faith negotiations with Indigo you're out of your mind, or inredbly naive
10-23-2017, 10:00 AM
#395
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It’s been quite evident that mgmt has no intention on resolving the contract any time soon. As a new hire (less than 1 year) is it worth sticking around? The hopeful optimism is dwindling and the false promises of “real” growth reasonable upgrade times are not as they seem.
Would any of you recommend going to AA or SWA If given the chance?
Would any of you recommend going to AA or SWA If given the chance?
10-23-2017, 10:18 AM
#396
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
It’s been quite evident that mgmt has no intention on resolving the contract any time soon. As a new hire (less than 1 year) is it worth sticking around? The hopeful optimism is dwindling and the false promises of “real” growth reasonable upgrade times are not as they seem.
Would any of you recommend going to AA or SWA If given the chance?
Would any of you recommend going to AA or SWA If given the chance?
Everyone’s situation is different. If you’re close to retiring and live in one of our hubs, I can see why a new hire would stick it out here...other than that, if you’re in your 30s, you’d be insane to not try moving on. No offense to the F9 pilots staying-it’s a great place to work IMHO, but if you’re under 40, you’re literally leaving millions of dollars in retirement and earnings if you stay here (and that’s even with our “ask” pay rates for the next contract)
10-23-2017, 11:57 AM
#398
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Originally Posted by sulkair
So what happens if every-time we get close to getting released, Indigo just lets a little slack out and the NMB never lets us go?
10-23-2017, 12:20 PM
#399
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Originally Posted by UNSUBSCRIBE
You know what happens.. it drags out for YEARS. Thats why you vote with your feet.
My fear is frustration takes over and the group settles for less.
10-23-2017, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
If you can, yes I suppose you do vote with your feet. Not realistic for many as someone pointed out earlier.
My fear is frustration takes over and the group settles for less.
My fear is frustration takes over and the group settles for less.
The only thing that may help is lack of applicants but im sure theyll just do what Spirit is doing, hiring 2,000 hr guys who have no business driving a car, let alone an Airbus
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