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Old 06-16-2020, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by WaterRooster View Post
Pretty sure training and Recruiting have come out and shut this down quickly. They were "hopeful" for Spring/Summer next year. Worst part is, that included upgrades as well.
Spring/summer of next year makes more sense to me, what was said by recruiting? Obviously it’s a lot of by speculation at this point.
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Old 06-16-2020, 12:29 PM
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I predict, when the new aircraft from Airbus start showing up , we will start hiring and upgrade classes again.
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyhigh44 View Post
I predict, when the new aircraft from Airbus start showing up , we will start hiring and upgrade classes again.
Any Idea when the aircraft deliveries start up again?
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:08 PM
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Any Idea when the aircraft deliveries start up again?
Well, we are taking deliveries of 2 new aircraft in July. So there is that.
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:45 PM
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Where did you hear that. Not that I don’t believe you, but I heard Airbus was delayed getting orders out on time due to parts.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyhigh44 View Post
Where did you hear that. Not that I don’t believe you, but I heard Airbus was delayed getting orders out on time due to parts.
we took 371 out of Mobile last month I believe. Franke said the Dubai air show order of 430 don’t begin to arrive until 2023. Last I heard was the majority of this years’ deliveries; 15 odd would arrive next year in addition to the planned deliveries.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Punkah Louvre View Post
we took 371 out of Mobile last month I believe. Franke said the Dubai air show order of 430 don’t begin to arrive until 2023. Last I heard was the majority of this years’ deliveries; 15 odd would arrive next year in addition to the planned deliveries.
It was discussed a few weeks ago in recurrent by CD that we aren’t delaying deliveries and that new planes start showing up in July.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:37 PM
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I guess I should revise my statement. When we have all our aircraft out of storage and are taking new planes we would have to hire and upgrade. Being an optimist
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Old 06-16-2020, 08:13 PM
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I think a few things have/are becoming evident that will temper most of F9s impending world domination protocol from being Implemented.
First: there has never been, in the history of mankind at least, a full 120 days of almost zero production of goods and services from every corner of the industrialized and connected globe. That little nugget there has so far reaching and deep cutting ramifications that we won’t truly be able to comprehend the magnitude of the loss till sometime around Nov-Dec. just try to think of how wealth is made and spent...not on wall street, but on the labor of humans. that’s how wealth is created, by people making things or doing something for someone else. That’s it ...now stop that Machine....ok we did...time passed with no wealth created. We can’t get back that time.

second: F9,WN, And NK all thought The big 3 were going to run away and hide in a hole until the international market rebounded. That does not look to be the case AA is throwing just about everything they can back on the market next month. The big 3 learned the lessons of the last two downturns and gave away too much market share to WN (mostly), not going to happen this time. They are in it for blood, ours or theirs but either way it’s going to be long, brutal and lots of blood letting happing in the future.

lastly: we still don’t know WTF is really going on with this virus. People don’t want to be next to strangers for the purpose of transportation, not for for some time to come at least.

none of these make me feel confident that true growth will happen ANYWHERE for 3-5 years. But what do I know, I’m just an a pilot making guesses like all the rest....
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Old 06-17-2020, 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by runinonfumes View Post
First: there has never been, in the history of mankind at least, a full 120 days of almost zero production of goods and services from every corner of the industrialized and connected globe. That little nugget there has so far reaching and deep cutting ramifications that we won’t truly be able to comprehend the magnitude of the loss till sometime around Nov-Dec. just try to think of how wealth is made and spent...not on wall street, but on the labor of humans. that’s how wealth is created, by people making things or doing something for someone else. That’s it ...now stop that Machine....ok we did...time passed with no wealth created. We can’t get back that time.
What you have written is totally logical and correct......of it wer 2007 however. The economy isnt what it used to be.

They will print, velocity will go up as will debt, and the slump wont be as bad. Itll be plastered over to a large extent. What of peoples long term spending habits is another story though.

Go check out modern monetary theory.
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