wes8000

I highly agree with your post but as a person who went to the MTC event and got invited to the in-person interview I personally got the TBNT message. I really messed up with the logbook situation. For one my PPL checkride was not there, and the guy grilled me for it. I told him that I never had a problem with my school and my current regional airline. I’ve gone through 10 check rides and tbh nobody asked me about it. And if they did I told them I was 17 years old at the time and out of state since it was a scholarship that was given to me. Nevertheless the real reason I messed up is because I printed my 121 hours via crewtrac and didn’t put it in my logbook.”facepalm” yeah I know smh. They really liked me and they told me the real reason they didn’t go with my app is because of the logbook/crewtrac to which I totally agree. I am definitely going to reapply in 6 months since I was… Lazy… but this was a wake up call for me to give it my all and not do weird stuff like that.

BufordT Justice

Totally agree. Don’t listen to anyone on an anonymous message board who suggests you should try to get in touch with the company before you spend a day traveling.

Just show up and cross your fingers. Solid advice.

Xdashdriver

I guess you missed the part about him having emailed them twice already with no response? That's about all he can do. Contrary to what you appear to be suggesting, I'd recommend he go to the interview and explain his situation in person. At least he'll get an answer there one way or the other. But he's a big boy, he can make up his own mind.

BufordT Justice

I was merely suggesting exhausting his options. Find a different email to try, attempt a phone call or two, etc. Of course, if that doesn’t work then absolutely show up and work it out in person. But I think settling for two email attempts and showing up with fingers crossed, which has been suggested, isn’t the wisest choice. You’re right, he is a big boy and can handle it as he sees fit. He just needs to know that exceptionally qualified people routinely get turned down due to logbook issues.

mrwizard0

Just my opinion, but I think the scrutiny of the logbooks is just a test. They give you a hard time about something minuscule to see how you react. Be honest, respectful and non confrontational about it and I bet they don’t care.

SoloX531

With all this concern for logbooks, I can assure you that they have seen everything when it has come to the logbooks. They really do give you a fair opportunity to explain the situation. It should be a non-issue as long as you can confidently explain away their concerns and that it’s neat and orderly. I am speaking from experience. I have a completely rebuilt logbook since someone decided to steal mine that had everything from 0 to my commercial before I switched. It really is a non-issue.

BobChungus

Along the same topic, a few of my initial rides the DPE didn't sign the entry for the checkride... I just wrote "PPL Checkride Passed" in the remarks. The interview email doesn't specifically ask for this but I'd like to avoid the logbook scrutiny. Anybody have a similar dilemma?

TOGALOCK

I don’t think the DPE ever signed my logbook for any of my initial rides. It just went in my logbook as PIC and a notation in the comments section like you stated that you have. It’s never been an issue and was never even mentioned in any interview, Frontier included.

There’s no regulation that says the DPE has to sign your logbook. It’s not like documenting the instructor if you received dual instruction. The DPE signature on your temporary at the time is their documentation.

If you’re really concerned about it request your full airman file from the FAA (and bring it with you to the interview). It will have a copy of every written test result, every 8710 you’ve ever filed, every temporary certificate, notice of disapproval, and medical you’ve ever had. A quick comparison of the date your temporary for that particular temp certificate was issued to the date in your logbook would be proof enough that the entry your claiming to be your Checkride was, in fact, your Checkride. Remember, in the interview it’s less about your logbook and more about responsibility and accuracy. They want to see that you’ve done the legwork and took responsibility for accurate documentation as well as problem solved to prove any inaccuracies.

BobChungus

Understood, thanks!

DoSomePilotStuf

Had the same concern after reading one of the interview invite emails from Frontier. Showed up and the only comment I got from my logbooks was “Excellent work” or something like that.

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And affixed labels printed from this:

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Seemed like they very much appreciated the extra effort.

The tabs just stick like a sticky note, not permanent but very professional looking.