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It blows my mind how junior and senior folks alike completely misunderstand how these bid postings work..
It's not 0 FOs. It's 16 upgrades, which means they get replaced with 16 FOs. The new hire class will have 16 if all show up.
The company is adding 16 slots to the seniority list. 16 folks are going to upgrade, prompting a cascade of movement on both the CA and FO side. The 16 newhires will get what remains unfilled.. Net changes is +16 for the company, +16 CAs, + 0 FOs.
Have heard a mix of rumors of 30 for July and up to 50 for July. We'll know once they craft the August sim schedule.
It's not 0 FOs. It's 16 upgrades, which means they get replaced with 16 FOs. The new hire class will have 16 if all show up.
The company is adding 16 slots to the seniority list. 16 folks are going to upgrade, prompting a cascade of movement on both the CA and FO side. The 16 newhires will get what remains unfilled.. Net changes is +16 for the company, +16 CAs, + 0 FOs.
Have heard a mix of rumors of 30 for July and up to 50 for July. We'll know once they craft the August sim schedule.
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It isn't that we don't know how it works, but we have been seeing 20-60 a month FO side for the last 2-3 years with few CA vacancies. It used to be like 8 CA vacancies and 50 FOs. Now it is 15+ CAs and few FOs. They are also doing these upgrades too late... They have so few CA reserves and everyone's flying, our recovery options and delay issues are mainly attributed to how "overstaffed" /s we are.
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#555
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From: 1900D CA
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Yes. I'm too senior to leave. So I hope for better. But i will certainly do everything the union asks of me. I will picket, I will vote to strike and I will strike if the opportunity comes. But for now, I'm sure hoping this mediator gets some F-ing meetings scheduled instead of canceled.
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Frontier MEC Union Update:
Let's clarify the situation. Management has opened several small satellite bases, shifted to a day-turn model, and offloaded per diem and hotel costs onto the pilots. This has uprooted many pilots from their homes, forcing them into long commutes across the country for day turns. On top of that, the company has shown no effort good faith bargaining towards an industry standard contract.
Now the union is offering to assist the company in managing the very issues caused by its own poor planning and mismanagement.
Let's clarify the situation. Management has opened several small satellite bases, shifted to a day-turn model, and offloaded per diem and hotel costs onto the pilots. This has uprooted many pilots from their homes, forcing them into long commutes across the country for day turns. On top of that, the company has shown no effort good faith bargaining towards an industry standard contract.
Now the union is offering to assist the company in managing the very issues caused by its own poor planning and mismanagement.
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Frontier MEC Union Update:
Let's clarify the situation. Management has opened several small satellite bases, shifted to a day-turn model, and offloaded per diem and hotel costs onto the pilots. This has uprooted many pilots from their homes, forcing them into long commutes across the country for day turns. On top of that, the company has shown no effort good faith bargaining towards an industry standard contract.
Now the union is offering to assist the company in managing the very issues caused by its own poor planning and mismanagement.
Let's clarify the situation. Management has opened several small satellite bases, shifted to a day-turn model, and offloaded per diem and hotel costs onto the pilots. This has uprooted many pilots from their homes, forcing them into long commutes across the country for day turns. On top of that, the company has shown no effort good faith bargaining towards an industry standard contract.
Now the union is offering to assist the company in managing the very issues caused by its own poor planning and mismanagement.
Keep in mind we’re building a case for release from mediation if there’s no movement over time.
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