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02-19-2025 | 02:57 PM
#631
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Barclays Investor call was today.
Contract was addressed. No rush of course.
https://ir.flyfrontier.com
Have a listen….
Contract was addressed. No rush of course.
https://ir.flyfrontier.com
Have a listen….
02-19-2025 | 03:46 PM
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Barclays Investor call was today.
Contract was addressed. No rush of course.
https://ir.flyfrontier.com
Have a listen….
Contract was addressed. No rush of course.
https://ir.flyfrontier.com
Have a listen….
Thanks for sharing.
02-19-2025 | 04:09 PM
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Barclays Investor call was today.
Contract was addressed. No rush of course.
https://ir.flyfrontier.com
Have a listen….
Contract was addressed. No rush of course.
https://ir.flyfrontier.com
Have a listen….
highest utilization on thu, fri, sun, mon
maintain 40% cost advantage with the new contract
02-20-2025 | 07:48 AM
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A pay raise (w/ accompanying raises in benefits like vacation, LTD, 401k, etc.) would equate to raising that average fare to about $46.
02-20-2025 | 08:03 AM
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40% cost advantage is a smoke screen. ANY cost advantage is all relative to the price of good sold. The average fare per passenger in 2024 for about $44.
A pay raise (w/ accompanying raises in benefits like vacation, LTD, 401k, etc.) would equate to raising that average fare to about $46.
A pay raise (w/ accompanying raises in benefits like vacation, LTD, 401k, etc.) would equate to raising that average fare to about $46.
the average ticket price was 117$ per passenger last year. Not sure where you got the price of 46$ if we have a 40% raise which is 400 million in total revenue it would be 163.8$ per ticket which is a 46.8$ difference.
the advantages of the neo engine fleet. No major engine overalls or major maintenance items for frontier is cost advantageous. They also claim we have profit coming in from the changes to route structure being day trips. So lower hotel costs for the company and higher margin fares.
if they’re correct about the cost savings advantages great. But I do think they plan on underpaying us. As they have every cycle. Snap up or a no from me. Their job is to make profit ours is to fly planes. They should pay us what we’re worth.
02-20-2025 | 08:45 AM
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we made 1 billion in revenue. That’s super easy math to 400 million. I was referring to the raise in fare price from current average ticket price which was listed in our q4 filing. If you want to check you can compare the average fare price over at the big three see if it runs around 164$/ticket
02-20-2025 | 08:59 AM
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the average ticket price was 117$ per passenger last year. Not sure where you got the price of 46$ if we have a 40% raise which is 400 million in total revenue it would be 163.8$ per ticket which is a 46.8$ difference.
the advantages of the neo engine fleet. No major engine overalls or major maintenance items for frontier is cost advantageous. They also claim we have profit coming in from the changes to route structure being day trips. So lower hotel costs for the company and higher margin fares.
if they’re correct about the cost savings advantages great. But I do think they plan on underpaying us. As they have every cycle. Snap up or a no from me. Their job is to make profit ours is to fly planes. They should pay us what we’re worth.
the advantages of the neo engine fleet. No major engine overalls or major maintenance items for frontier is cost advantageous. They also claim we have profit coming in from the changes to route structure being day trips. So lower hotel costs for the company and higher margin fares.
if they’re correct about the cost savings advantages great. But I do think they plan on underpaying us. As they have every cycle. Snap up or a no from me. Their job is to make profit ours is to fly planes. They should pay us what we’re worth.
10-k
page 7
Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing...
02-20-2025 | 09:05 AM
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https://ir.flyfrontier.com/sec-filin...0076-25-000041
10-k
page 7
Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing...
10-k
page 7
Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing...
even on this document it’s 114$/ ticket+ancillaries.
the q4 average was 117$/ticket+ ancillaries.
Based on the fact we can’t actually cover our unit cost with the ticket price alone. Just look at our profit and loss over the last few years to see that. We need the ancillaries or a higher fare price. We take advantage of reduced taxes on ancillaries compared to ticket price to help boost profit. But we still need that extra 71$/ticket per passenger just to get a little bit of profit.
02-20-2025 | 09:10 AM
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we made 1 billion in revenue. That’s super easy math to 400 million. I was referring to the raise in fare price from current average ticket price which was listed in our q4 filing. If you want to check you can compare the average fare price over at the big three see if it runs around 164$/ticket
In other words, where did the $400M come from?
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