Did those mainline folks at Delta or NWA, lose any numbers to a regional pilot?

It was my impression that was a merger of Equals (major to major, ei-branded ops VS FFD). No big/small plane debate here, just the TYPE of operations.

If UAL & Skywest combined lists, would everyone would just "suck it up" and "move on"? mmmm?

You are right - at some point it will be over and finished. We are NOT there yet.
Until then, WE WILL Fight. Wouldn't You?

 

If there were a system wide re-bid nothing would change from yesterday to today: I would go from a junior RJ FO to a junior RJ FO. Instead of anticipating a hit to my seniority in 6 years, I've already taken it. My opportunity for upgrade, the only reason I'm here, is significantly delayed due to hundreds of Midwest guys integrated above (at the time of the IMSL) many of whom can hold 'street captain', and the entire ex-Lynx group. At least for an F9 FO who sees a delayed upgrade (by whoever is left in 6 years), at least you are stagnated at a reasonable pay rate. Try being pinned a few extra years to topped out a 36K/yr paycheck.

This isn't intended to be a woe-is-me, but just to illustrate that plenty of us here native to RAH got the sh*t end of the stick too.

Also, not to take away from ex-midwest and what they went through. I'm sure even a street captain position here sucks compared to their former life. Losing spots sucks no matter the circumstances, but especially bad when likely-to-be-lifer street CA's clog up spots needed to attain the goal of getting some PIC and getting the F out.

If RAH/F9 never bought another airplane until I retired, I'd be in the same spot as today: waiting for people to leave so I can get the stupid TPIC my preferred airline wants, so I can leave. Point is: I cannot today, nor in 6 years, push anyone down in any equipment (and I don't want to). Again, just pointing that not everyone at RAH got this magic windfall all the F9 guys are outwardly ****ed about.

 

SeaRider, my question to you is even with all of the Q-400's you are no closer to upgrading?

 

hey! Bolo is on here way me than me! as far as my days off, doesn't everyone sit infront of the weather channel and APC drinking yesterdays coffee in their epauletted bathrobe?

Oh...and..i like how F9 pilots put themselves in the same peer group as Delta for SLI examples. LOLZ....if DAL did merge lists with F9, the F9ers would have faired far worse than with RAH. Funny how to the F9 pilot it seems SLI are valued on how cool and achieved you think you are....and whether you live in CO or not weighs heavily.

 

Obviously a typical arrogant Delta driver. Ignore him. He doesn't realize that he is where he is out of luck, that he hasn't merged and tacked on the bottom somewhere else like so many others. I actually saw two Delta guys with stickers on their flt bags that said, "Hired, not acquire." How cockey.

I hope you guys at Frontier land on your feet somewhere. Good luck.

 

GS,

I am assuming you are a former Marine. First off be very careful how you use the term "washed out." Secondly spell check, or my very rudimentary techniques for spelling should be used before you post. If one has washed out I always try to explain why. If 25% of the Midwest folks washed out then perhaps you can tell us why that would be. I have no doubt based on the history of ME that they were qualified.

You folks at F9 are and have been in somewhat of a predicament lately. I certainly don't envy you. Good luck!

The Oscar

 

We fought and lost, now we move on.

We had guys get furloughed in 2001-2002 because of 9/11 at NWA.

On the new combined list, most of those year 2000 NWA hires are below 2007 hires at Delta. A few of those 2007 Delta hires started flying in 2001/2002, while NWA guys were getting furloughed. Now they are senior to the NWA pilots. Life is not fair sometimes, but you have to live with it.

TEN

 

No one is ever a 'former' Marine. So I've been told. My family was Army and Air Force.

Where can I get one of those epauletted bathrobes?

 

Yes and no.

The airframes we gained in the Q400's are almost a net wash considering the parking of the smallest e-jets, selling/sub-leasing of a few 170's and 190's leaving. I have made some progress up the list (less than half way up the RAH FO list in almost 5 years) but most of that is due to attrition. The Q400's have prompted the company to 'recall' ex-midwesters, upgrade, and hire to replace the attrition of the last couple of years that had not been replaced when they left.


-SR

 

My guess is that a junior 747 captain at NW doesn't have a DL 737 pilot going ahead of them.