SeaRider

Yes, that is entirely true, but for me, it is just a by-product of being integrated at the bottom - as long as there is no bump-and-flush, I can only move up. The higher you are on the list, the more bidding power you have to lose. But, I do see your point. My effective spots lost is really is equal the final number of senior to me ex-Midwest that accept recall and and the ex-Lynx group. Still sucks.

-SR

SeaRider

The company is very quiet about how many times they offer recall, or allow bypass. When I checked a couple of weeks ago, 1/3 of the "New-Hire" class in FLiCA was senior to me. If that don't make you want to start drinking, nothing will.

That said, I do believe most of the Midwest "recalls" that are going to come back are already on property. Many have fallen of the list since the IMSL.

-SR

embraerjetpilot

Did you ever compare a 190 with a DC 9? Original 737?

OscartheGrouch

Actually there Matt, "former" Marine is the preferred term. I believe you are alluding to the term ex-marine which is incorrect. Thus the term "there are no ex-marines, only former marines." Thank you for your family's service. I personally hate bathrobes and only bought one over 20 years ago because my wife suggested I get one. It is still in my closet and never gets used.

I only mentioned the Marines because of the use of great santini as an avatar. The Great Santini is a movie from the late 70's based on a book about a Marine fighter pilot.

The Oscar

P.S. Still waiting patiently for an answer about why a former Midwest Express pilot "washed out." Perhaps a phone call came in from a carrier who offered them a better job. I say again that a ME pilot would be qualified to be at F9.

FAULTPUSH

Why doesn't the fence block them from the left seat?

Great Santini

Here is a bit of good news for the stand-alone Frontier Airlines:

What do you tink about that Oscar? ;\

CEO Siegel: Frontier Airlines on course to profitability; could bring jobs back to Denver
Denver Business Journal by Ed Sealover, Reporter
Date: Thursday, October 18, 2012, 2:41pm MDT
Enlarge Image Courtesy Frontier Airlines
Frontier Airlines president/CEO David Siegel (file)

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Ed Sealover
Reporter- Denver Business Journal
Email | Facebook | Twitter | Capitol Business blog Frontier Airlines is headed to its first profit in roughly a decade and is continuing to negotiate with city and state government leaders over tax breaks that could lead the company to bring hundreds of jobs back to Denver, president/CEO David Siegel said Thursday.

Siegel in January was appointed the first CEO of the Denver-based airline since Republic Airways Holdings Inc. bought Frontier out of bankruptcy in late 2009.

Speaking at the Denver Business Journal’s Power Book awards luncheon, he emphasized the airline wants to reconnect to Denver. It has pulled sponsorships from other cities to refocus on the Mile High City and has started a program to donate a portion of on-board sales each month to a local charity, he said.

But what the airline really wants to do is consolidate employees, including several hundred maintenance workers and dispatchers now working in other states, in Denver, Siegel said.

To do that, however, it is negotiating for changes in several taxes it would have to pay in order to make the move fiscally viable for Indianapolis-based parent company Republic — changes that especially are important because Frontier’s primary competitors at Denver International Airport, United Airlines and Southwest Airlines, have tax advantages in their headquarters states, he said.


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> DBJ Special Report: Frontier Airlines and its turbulent journey


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“The one disappointment or the one challenge we have is the recognition there are certain tax issues we have to bring those jobs back to Colorado and Denver,” he said. “I am dealing with the same board that moved everything to Indianapolis, so I am challenged to make the case to bring these jobs back to Denver.”

Siegel did not specify which taxes are the hindrance, but a person familiar with the discussions told the DBJ in February that they involve Denver’s sales and use tax on heavy maintenance parts, the city’s “software tax” and city and state aviation fuel taxes.

Siegel did thank Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and Denver Mayor Michael Hancock for being “incredibly supportive and helpful as we’ve tried to work through these relocation issues.”

Siegel also said that as Republic officials look to sell Frontier or spin it off as an independent company, Frontier is having one of its most successful years financially in a long time.

“This year should be our first profitable year in about 10 years — not a large profit, but hopefully a profit,” he told the audience at the Marriott City Center.

Bolo

All my Fro Bro's I cannot wait to here all of my RAH Bro's with their spin and how bad F9 is doing and that we are all moving to New Orleans.

TillerEnvy

I long for the days when we could have meaningful convos on here with Bolo. Every post is childish and brings nothing to the table.

Tsk tsk

TenYearsGone

Siegel=untrustworthy, full of dog doo. Be very suspicious of anything that exits this man's mouth.

Nonetheless,


Good Luck

SeaRider

Every airline CEO ever (ok maybe not Kelleher/Kelly)=untrustworthy, full of dog doo. Be very suspicious of anything that exits this man's mouth.

There, FTFY.