Frontier Hiring.
02-27-2016 | 05:44 PM
#4131
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From: Enjoying the show
Maybe this is Frontier's latest situation-based interview technique. They're testing you to see how you'll react to being treated with no respect and how you'll react when another member of "the team" doesn't do her job.
"Thank you sir. May I please have another... appointment so that you may or may not call me again?"
The perfect candidate.
"Thank you sir. May I please have another... appointment so that you may or may not call me again?"
The perfect candidate.
02-27-2016 | 07:53 PM
#4133
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Have you looked at the pay? Moral is the lowest I've ever seen it. And that's really saying something considering what we've been through. Hotels have gone downhill, schedules have gone downhill, pay is pathetically low thanks to LOA's that were way too long.
So no, things are not good at Frontier. The only saving grace is the pilot group. Best group of people you'll ever find.
So no, things are not good at Frontier. The only saving grace is the pilot group. Best group of people you'll ever find.
02-27-2016 | 08:33 PM
#4134
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Joined: Jun 2007
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From: Retired Naval Aviator
I am definitely going to try again on Monday. I give her the benefit of doubt as it's Friday, probably is overwhelmed with recruiting calls, maybe had a family emergency, etc. It's tough getting things done out here in Afghanistan, especially when my schedule is 180 out.
02-27-2016 | 08:43 PM
#4135
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From: Retired Naval Aviator
Maybe this is Frontier's latest situation-based interview technique. They're testing you to see how you'll react to being treated with no respect and how you'll react when another member of "the team" doesn't do her job.
"Thank you sir. May I please have another... appointment so that you may or may not call me again?"
The perfect candidate.
"Thank you sir. May I please have another... appointment so that you may or may not call me again?"
The perfect candidate.
02-27-2016 | 09:01 PM
#4136
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Joined: Nov 2012
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From: 1900D CA
Have you looked at the pay? Moral is the lowest I've ever seen it. And that's really saying something considering what we've been through. Hotels have gone downhill, schedules have gone downhill, pay is pathetically low thanks to LOA's that were way too long.
So no, things are not good at Frontier. The only saving grace is the pilot group. Best group of people you'll ever find.
So no, things are not good at Frontier. The only saving grace is the pilot group. Best group of people you'll ever find.
Frontier is in a great position right now. We are the 5th most profitable airline in the country and growing quickly. There is a real opportunity here. 2 year upgrade here and 20 year upgrade at Southwest. Add a new contract to that, and I'd say frontier will be a good airline to work for.
02-28-2016 | 06:01 AM
#4139
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From: Airbus CA
For anyone Hired 3/1/16 on, rates may vary slightly for anyone already on property, but it's negligible so I didn't bother...YES we need raises, but not as a TRADE for any WORK Rules...
CA. FO
1. $118.78 $37.59
2. $119.82 $67.85
3. $125.23 $77.48
4. $132.28 $81.83
5. $141.38 $87.46
6. $144.55 $89.40
7. $147.32 $91.13
8. $150.71 $93.23
9. $153.41 $94.89
10. $156.11 $96.57
11. $158.87 $98.28
12. $161.68 $100.01
13. $164.19 $100.01
14. $166.68 $100.01
Oh I almost forgot...2 year upgrades will quickly start lengthening again for anyone not hired in say the next 6 months, unless another Aircraft Order is announced. Frontier's 1 trick hiring pony will evaporate after this year, coinciding nicely with the big 3 increasing hiring! Hopefully this will give us some negotiating leverage!
CA. FO
1. $118.78 $37.59
2. $119.82 $67.85
3. $125.23 $77.48
4. $132.28 $81.83
5. $141.38 $87.46
6. $144.55 $89.40
7. $147.32 $91.13
8. $150.71 $93.23
9. $153.41 $94.89
10. $156.11 $96.57
11. $158.87 $98.28
12. $161.68 $100.01
13. $164.19 $100.01
14. $166.68 $100.01
Oh I almost forgot...2 year upgrades will quickly start lengthening again for anyone not hired in say the next 6 months, unless another Aircraft Order is announced. Frontier's 1 trick hiring pony will evaporate after this year, coinciding nicely with the big 3 increasing hiring! Hopefully this will give us some negotiating leverage!
Last edited by sab1250; 02-28-2016 at 06:13 AM.
02-28-2016 | 07:19 AM
#4140
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2 year upgrades are already over.
People getting hired today are looking at closer to 4 years.
I base this statement on the fact that a newhire today will be number ~1000 on the list. The most Jr upgrade just recently awarded was ~64% down the list (many continue to bypass.)
In order for a newhire today (#1000) to achieve the ~64% mark we need to have ~1600 pilots on property.
If 1000 pilots staff ~56 planes then 1600 pilots staff ~90 airplanes.
What's our growth plan guys? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how we have 90 airplanes 2 years from today.
Also as upgrades go deeper, bypassers will get off the fence because they won't be commuting to reserve, etc. Possibly bringing that ~64% number closer to ~60%
And, attrition among those above the most most junior upgrade is scant.
People getting hired today are looking at closer to 4 years.
I base this statement on the fact that a newhire today will be number ~1000 on the list. The most Jr upgrade just recently awarded was ~64% down the list (many continue to bypass.)
In order for a newhire today (#1000) to achieve the ~64% mark we need to have ~1600 pilots on property.
If 1000 pilots staff ~56 planes then 1600 pilots staff ~90 airplanes.
What's our growth plan guys? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how we have 90 airplanes 2 years from today.
Also as upgrades go deeper, bypassers will get off the fence because they won't be commuting to reserve, etc. Possibly bringing that ~64% number closer to ~60%
And, attrition among those above the most most junior upgrade is scant.
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