Frontier Hiring.
08-16-2016 | 06:54 PM
#5151
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Lots of much better paying airlines are hiring. Think of ULCC as a regional. Maybe less. Bottom line is some regionals pay more than F9, don't require a training contract and pay bonuses or offer chances to make it to a legacy. Start looking for better places to be even if it means being on a smaller aircraft, most likely those places will pay more and offer better QOL without the chained down feeling of a training contract.
08-16-2016 | 08:24 PM
#5152
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From: Prone Supported
Come on. Lil melodramatic, maybe? Other than a couple bucks year one, ULCC carriers blow any regional out of the water. I left a regional for F9. I'm ready to strike like most others, to fix our situation, but leaving my regional for F9 was one of the best decisions my family and I have ever made.
08-16-2016 | 08:46 PM
#5153
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Lots of much better paying airlines are hiring. Think of ULCC as a regional. Maybe less. Bottom line is some regionals pay more than F9, don't require a training contract and pay bonuses or offer chances to make it to a legacy. Start looking for better places to be even if it means being on a smaller aircraft, most likely those places will pay more and offer better QOL without the chained down feeling of a training contract.
08-16-2016 | 09:25 PM
#5154
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This place is way better than any regional. To say it's "less" I guess is in the eye of the beholder, but IMHO 95% of people will find this a good change from where ever they came from (other than the obvious first year pay).
08-17-2016 | 12:47 AM
#5155
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From: BE90 Left
Fixed it for you. Yes, it gets old listening to people complain about first-year pay right after they interviewed for the job. Guess what, they deserve to do so because what we offer is an embarrassment, and they're the ones that have to live with it. Rather than telling someone who will take home $25,000 after taxes to pound sand, eat a slice of humble pie yourself before posting. Our pay, ESPECIALLY first-year, sucks. We all understand the reasons why it is the way it is but at this point in time it's unacceptable.
08-17-2016 | 10:30 AM
#5156
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Everyone needs to just do what's best for them and their family. IMO F9 is hands down better than any regional. Does it need changes? Absolutely. Does first year pay suck? Of course. Second year pay is more than most regionals and third year is the same or more than most captain regional pay (unless you've been there forever).
08-17-2016 | 01:42 PM
#5157
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Fixed it for you. Yes, it gets old listening to people complain about first-year pay right after they interviewed for the job. Guess what, they deserve to do so because what we offer is an embarrassment, and they're the ones that have to live with it. Rather than telling someone who will take home $25,000 after taxes to pound sand, eat a slice of humble pie yourself before posting. Our pay, ESPECIALLY first-year, sucks. We all understand the reasons why it is the way it is but at this point in time it's unacceptable.
Nobody said it was acceptable.
08-19-2016 | 09:18 AM
#5158
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First year pay at Frontier was not always so abysmal. Prior to Contract 2007 first year pay was in excess of $52. You can thank the leadership that put that contract to a vote and the overwhelming majority of the membership that passed it. We only have ourselves to blame for selling out the first year employees.
Let's not let it happen with the next contract!
Let's not let it happen with the next contract!
08-19-2016 | 01:07 PM
#5159
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From: Bus CA
I never understood why they chopped first year pay so heavily. Frontier wasn't hiring in huge numbers when they inked those 1st year rates, so the number of new guys/gals on first year pay had little effect on the cost savings in the concessionary contract. Was it short-sighted or just greed? Maybe dc7c or one of the other architects of the 2007 contract can chime in. I'm guessing I'll get something along the lines of, "well everybody else was doing it!"
08-19-2016 | 01:34 PM
#5160
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From: Jet
I never understood why they chopped first year pay so heavily. Frontier wasn't hiring in huge numbers when they inked those 1st year rates, so the number of new guys/gals on first year pay had little effect on the cost savings in the concessionary contract. Was it short-sighted or just greed? Maybe dc7c or one of the other architects of the 2007 contract can chime in. I'm guessing I'll get something along the lines of, "well everybody else was doing it!"
The first year pay chop was a pawn for some other gain in the contract....thats how it usually goes. And im sure it didnt have anything to do with being shortsighted.
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