Thoughts about CURRENT GoJet
#71
You sir by your own admission are completely unprofessional! Take your bad attitude back to mommy!
#72
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 483
Yes I was quite unprofessional at that interview. I've had 3 other airline interviews and showed up to all of them in suit and tie, well groomed, and prepared. Got job offers at all 3. My heart was not in it at the GJ interview. I didn't study anything and didn't care enough to look good. You don't know me or my reasons for even showing up to that interview the 2nd time so kindly shut the hell up.
#73
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2010
Posts: 18
I did the uncle hulie thing for several years. First and foremost, the airline business has an unsustainable model of doing business. It's a loser no matter how far up or down you look at it. Big companies (majors) lose money and small companies (regionals) make it at a cost of personal misery, misfortune and bloated ideology that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, which, for you newby low time guy's, that will be your breakfast, lunch and dinner. Hopefully you live at home or with family that is willing to have you there so you don't have to pay rent.
The regional low cost carrier, not to mention deregulation, killed this industry. When you figure your cost of training, you'll quickly find out that the amount of work you have to perform to pay that back is maddening. You will be pushed by the company, doesn't matter which one it is, to a degree of anger, frustration, and disappointment beyond your imagination. YOU WILL MAKE LESS MONEY AND CARRY MORE DEBT OVER TIME THAN YOU THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE!
I left the business, and have considered going back to it (regional, that is) and the idea of slogging it out there makes me feel very feculent; feculent defined: filled with filth and human waste; used in a sentence; my feculence for regional flying is at all time high. So, if and when you decide NEWBY AIRLINE PILOT to get in to this game (and it is a GAME, believe me) make absolutely G*D D*MN sure you have a back up plan and something, some form of education or experience in a different field that you can get yourself in to.
You will be treated like a dog and then beat like a punching bag in a prison. If you are looking for fast upgrade, good luck, that ship sailed for most companies a few years back. Be prepared monkey's for right seat freedom for years, not to mention the fun of being on RESERVE FOR SIX DAYS STRAIGHT, maybe you'll fly, maybe you won't, but one thing is for sure, the company will not release you until the absolute last minute of your last day. If you miss the last flight home (commuters), SUCK IT, to bad *********, enjoy your 1.5 days off, and, oh by the way, you have to come back on your day off because your reserve starts at 5am the next morning.
Be sure you want to do this. In the words of the Mighty Hetfield (metallica, losers) BROKEN BEAT SCARRED.
The regional low cost carrier, not to mention deregulation, killed this industry. When you figure your cost of training, you'll quickly find out that the amount of work you have to perform to pay that back is maddening. You will be pushed by the company, doesn't matter which one it is, to a degree of anger, frustration, and disappointment beyond your imagination. YOU WILL MAKE LESS MONEY AND CARRY MORE DEBT OVER TIME THAN YOU THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE!
I left the business, and have considered going back to it (regional, that is) and the idea of slogging it out there makes me feel very feculent; feculent defined: filled with filth and human waste; used in a sentence; my feculence for regional flying is at all time high. So, if and when you decide NEWBY AIRLINE PILOT to get in to this game (and it is a GAME, believe me) make absolutely G*D D*MN sure you have a back up plan and something, some form of education or experience in a different field that you can get yourself in to.
You will be treated like a dog and then beat like a punching bag in a prison. If you are looking for fast upgrade, good luck, that ship sailed for most companies a few years back. Be prepared monkey's for right seat freedom for years, not to mention the fun of being on RESERVE FOR SIX DAYS STRAIGHT, maybe you'll fly, maybe you won't, but one thing is for sure, the company will not release you until the absolute last minute of your last day. If you miss the last flight home (commuters), SUCK IT, to bad *********, enjoy your 1.5 days off, and, oh by the way, you have to come back on your day off because your reserve starts at 5am the next morning.
Be sure you want to do this. In the words of the Mighty Hetfield (metallica, losers) BROKEN BEAT SCARRED.
#75
I did the uncle hulie thing for several years. First and foremost, the airline business has an unsustainable model of doing business. It's a loser no matter how far up or down you look at it. Big companies (majors) lose money and small companies (regionals) make it at a cost of personal misery, misfortune and bloated ideology that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, which, for you newby low time guy's, that will be your breakfast, lunch and dinner. Hopefully you live at home or with family that is willing to have you there so you don't have to pay rent.
The regional low cost carrier, not to mention deregulation, killed this industry. When you figure your cost of training, you'll quickly find out that the amount of work you have to perform to pay that back is maddening. You will be pushed by the company, doesn't matter which one it is, to a degree of anger, frustration, and disappointment beyond your imagination. YOU WILL MAKE LESS MONEY AND CARRY MORE DEBT OVER TIME THAN YOU THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE!
I left the business, and have considered going back to it (regional, that is) and the idea of slogging it out there makes me feel very feculent; feculent defined: filled with filth and human waste; used in a sentence; my feculence for regional flying is at all time high. So, if and when you decide NEWBY AIRLINE PILOT to get in to this game (and it is a GAME, believe me) make absolutely G*D D*MN sure you have a back up plan and something, some form of education or experience in a different field that you can get yourself in to.
You will be treated like a dog and then beat like a punching bag in a prison. If you are looking for fast upgrade, good luck, that ship sailed for most companies a few years back. Be prepared monkey's for right seat freedom for years, not to mention the fun of being on RESERVE FOR SIX DAYS STRAIGHT, maybe you'll fly, maybe you won't, but one thing is for sure, the company will not release you until the absolute last minute of your last day. If you miss the last flight home (commuters), SUCK IT, to bad *********, enjoy your 1.5 days off, and, oh by the way, you have to come back on your day off because your reserve starts at 5am the next morning.
Be sure you want to do this. In the words of the Mighty Hetfield (metallica, losers) BROKEN BEAT SCARRED.
The regional low cost carrier, not to mention deregulation, killed this industry. When you figure your cost of training, you'll quickly find out that the amount of work you have to perform to pay that back is maddening. You will be pushed by the company, doesn't matter which one it is, to a degree of anger, frustration, and disappointment beyond your imagination. YOU WILL MAKE LESS MONEY AND CARRY MORE DEBT OVER TIME THAN YOU THOUGHT WAS POSSIBLE!
I left the business, and have considered going back to it (regional, that is) and the idea of slogging it out there makes me feel very feculent; feculent defined: filled with filth and human waste; used in a sentence; my feculence for regional flying is at all time high. So, if and when you decide NEWBY AIRLINE PILOT to get in to this game (and it is a GAME, believe me) make absolutely G*D D*MN sure you have a back up plan and something, some form of education or experience in a different field that you can get yourself in to.
You will be treated like a dog and then beat like a punching bag in a prison. If you are looking for fast upgrade, good luck, that ship sailed for most companies a few years back. Be prepared monkey's for right seat freedom for years, not to mention the fun of being on RESERVE FOR SIX DAYS STRAIGHT, maybe you'll fly, maybe you won't, but one thing is for sure, the company will not release you until the absolute last minute of your last day. If you miss the last flight home (commuters), SUCK IT, to bad *********, enjoy your 1.5 days off, and, oh by the way, you have to come back on your day off because your reserve starts at 5am the next morning.
Be sure you want to do this. In the words of the Mighty Hetfield (metallica, losers) BROKEN BEAT SCARRED.
#76
Yes I was quite unprofessional at that interview. I've had 3 other airline interviews and showed up to all of them in suit and tie, well groomed, and prepared. Got job offers at all 3. My heart was not in it at the GJ interview. I didn't study anything and didn't care enough to look good. You don't know me or my reasons for even showing up to that interview the 2nd time so kindly shut the hell up.
#78
The odds of somebody at a future interview knowing the ins and outs of the TSA/GoJet debacle are slim to none. I'll lift an eyebrow at you in the terminal, or even give you the regional-toughguy-cold shoulder, but I think that is the worst you'll have to endure from your fellow pilots.
#79
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Furlough/Gun Driver
Posts: 437
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Scab lists have been remembered for decades. I know there is a difference and alter ego pilots are not scabs, but the airlines you work for will be remembered as setting the bar for compensation at new low levels and have cost others in the industry pay and benefits as well. Some to remember are Freedom, Go Jet, Skybus. Your willingness to accept industry low wages in order to further your personal gain will be remembered. Remember to list these airlines with pride on your resume and job applications.
Scab lists have been remembered for decades. I know there is a difference and alter ego pilots are not scabs, but the airlines you work for will be remembered as setting the bar for compensation at new low levels and have cost others in the industry pay and benefits as well. Some to remember are Freedom, Go Jet, Skybus. Your willingness to accept industry low wages in order to further your personal gain will be remembered. Remember to list these airlines with pride on your resume and job applications.
#80
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,530
flaps9, there's no one to blame but management and the very weak toilet paper contract TSA has. To this day, almost a decade later it's still causing major hardship.
We can blame Gojet and the pilots till we turn blue, as we all have, but it won't solve anything. I'm beginning to think that we really have the worst/most ruthless management, it's no wonder things like Gojet happened.
Right now people should be focused on uniting at Hulas land. We just got a 3rd certificate added in. Hopefully ALPA will do its job right this time.
We can blame Gojet and the pilots till we turn blue, as we all have, but it won't solve anything. I'm beginning to think that we really have the worst/most ruthless management, it's no wonder things like Gojet happened.
Right now people should be focused on uniting at Hulas land. We just got a 3rd certificate added in. Hopefully ALPA will do its job right this time.
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