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Old 01-30-2016 | 11:04 AM
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Just to comfirm... The new agreement is to fly the 175's for current Q-payrates? Are the payrates listed on the Horizon page of APC accurate?

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Old 01-30-2016 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by skwcrj
Just to comfirm... The new agreement is to fly the 175's for current Q-payrates? Are the payrates listed on the Horizon page of APC accurate?



Thanks for the info.

Current Q rates + 1.5%. Raises around 1.5% with baseball arbitration in a few years.
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Old 01-30-2016 | 12:06 PM
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Shame on the 70%. A majority of the group is business-blind. QX is now a dead-end carrier; a real shame.
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Old 01-30-2016 | 02:35 PM
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I voted yes guess you guys are so F'n smart beating your chest oh yeah Im business dumb too ***. Maybe Im too old your right I saw Comair and QX try once to uplift the industry comair no longer here because the truth is everyone looking in has opinion and a Ahole. We vote No on this and you guys think it will turn out different than Comair? why? Sorry I don't. And wow tons of conspiracy theories. Why good did it do for the Comair guys to take a stand? Thank God they did it allowed QX to thrive in the race to the bottom…Thank you to the most courageous guys an gals ever to fly in the regionals, The truth the rest of the chickens in the industry said Oh boy I can go fly the routes in shiny new jets aka you know you you are why you tell me to take a stand , Stand the hell up for yourself Ill feed my family lots of bench warmers talking complete crap beating their chest telling me and my bros *** to do come walk in our shoes for more than a few years
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Old 01-30-2016 | 02:47 PM
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This wasn't a choice thats the reality. Life will be very disappointing and so will your career if you choose to think everything is going to go according to your idealistic views. Idealistic I would have loved nothing more than saying HELL NO! Realistically this was yes vote under duress. Why.
I guarantee Skywest would be flying those jets immediately.
SAP-Would be useless with reduced pilot roster.
We are at top of pay scales for ERJ even at Q4 rates=Reality
Are Jets coming? absolutely but who is going to fly them=Answered now
How is this concessionary? Ill debate you because Ive set down my IDEALISTIC glasses reluctantly and look at this REALISTCALLY. Im ****ed has the next person but we have to be logical but I guess like a smarter man than me said Im business stupid.
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Old 01-30-2016 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LineGrinder400
Some really good analysis and questions raised by Phteven.

I will just add this little nugget from the company's official announcement:

More information to come shortly on the timeline, including when we will know if jet flying has been awarded to our airline.


IF??? What more is there to be settled? Probably reading too much into it but did cause me to read that statement twice.
Horizon still must submit thier bid to the AAG board to get the new jet CPA. Our impotent "union" never made this clear, but if you look back at everything DC and BL have said over the last 6 months, this was clear... The labor contracts are just one piece of the puzzle in our "commitment to compete"
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Old 01-30-2016 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
Horizon still must submit thier bid to the AAG board to get the new jet CPA. Our impotent "union" never made this clear, but if you look back at everything DC and BL have said over the last 6 months, this was clear... The labor contracts are just one piece of the puzzle in our "commitment to compete"
If we don't have a training department initialized by March I'd say it's a safe bet we aren't getting the flying anyway...and the company of course won't say anything because they know what will happen.
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Old 01-30-2016 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Noprisoners
I voted yes guess you guys are so F'n smart beating your chest oh yeah Im business dumb too ***. Maybe Im too old your right I saw Comair and QX try once to uplift the industry comair no longer here because the truth is everyone looking in has opinion and a Ahole. We vote No on this and you guys think it will turn out different than Comair? why? Sorry I don't. And wow tons of conspiracy theories. Why good did it do for the Comair guys to take a stand? Thank God they did it allowed QX to thrive in the race to the bottom…Thank you to the most courageous guys an gals ever to fly in the regionals, The truth the rest of the chickens in the industry said Oh boy I can go fly the routes in shiny new jets aka you know you you are why you tell me to take a stand , Stand the hell up for yourself Ill feed my family lots of bench warmers talking complete crap beating their chest telling me and my bros *** to do come walk in our shoes for more than a few years
What language are you speaking? The industry was slightly different when Comair went away, but if it makes you feel better, so be it.
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Old 01-30-2016 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
What language are you speaking? The industry was slightly different when Comair went away, but if it makes you feel better, so be it.
So we've established not a businessman nor a skilled wordsmith...
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Old 01-30-2016 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
Horizon still must submit thier bid to the AAG board to get the new jet CPA. Our impotent "union" never made this clear, but if you look back at everything DC and BL have said over the last 6 months, this was clear... The labor contracts are just one piece of the puzzle in our "commitment to compete"
I think the reason it wasn't clear is more to do with your impotent reading comprehension skills. Try reading the fleet LOA again... If you haven't figured it out by the fourth paragraph no one can help you.

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