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Old 04-01-2016, 07:13 AM
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Yes, because I hated having to wait on the shuttle all the time. If you had a 0530 brief you had to leave the hotel at 0430 and sit around at 0 dark 30. Plus, I was at the Staybridge, that smelled of mildew and cigarette smoke. The lodge is a far nicer facility.

The pay situation could be better, but overall the lodge is a huge improvement. I put a lot of value on being able to stroll between the hotel and the training center whenever I want. The food is good and varied, and the bar is open if you need to grab a beer after a tough training event.

When I hear people complain about the lodge I put that into the "pilots will always find something to complain about" category.
Have you considered a position in management... or are already there?
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:03 AM
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True, get them to build a roller coaster in the back, Universal is too far of a drive.

Like I said, pay could be better. Everything else is top notch. Couldn't ask for anything more.
Couldn't ask for anything more? Seriously?

Not like maybe having your family be allowed to stay with you or even visit your accommodations; have options other than the Jonestown Cafeteria (I'm sorry, the food is descent, but for those of you who say that it is "great," I suggest you expand your culinary horizons); or get your daily food credit back if you take an extended break from training, and thereby aren't even at The Lodge, which is often offered these days?

I'd like to hear from you all who are relatively new after several years on the line. It's not about being negative or becoming jaded. It's about perspective.
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Old 04-01-2016, 08:54 AM
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Yes, because I hated having to wait on the shuttle all the time. If you had a 0530 brief you had to leave the hotel at 0430 and sit around at 0 dark 30. Plus, I was at the Staybridge, that smelled of mildew and cigarette smoke. The lodge is a far nicer facility.

The pay situation could be better, but overall the lodge is a huge improvement. I put a lot of value on being able to stroll between the hotel and the training center whenever I want. The food is good and varied, and the bar is open if you need to grab a beer after a tough training event.

When I hear people complain about the lodge I put that into the "pilots will always find something to complain about" category.

I've got no problems with the Lodge for recurrent. Perfectly fine almost desirable for the ability to walk over.

As far as extended training or new hire training? Absolutely not. The staybridge is far from luxury but it has some big positives compared to the lodge. Kitchenettes, no company cameras, bigger rooms, and a variety of food.

I never had issues with the shuttle either. It was never more than a 15 minute wait to get back and arrival time seemed to work fine for sim sessions.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I don't think the company is monitoring those cameras. But you are always on company property and you're giving up that privacy. That is a huge negative. The $500 less for new hires really really sucks too. They could've kept it at $2500. That cafeteria isn't losing money.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:40 AM
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I stayed at the lodge last year for training. It was fine. Sure anything gets old after awhile, but as was mentioned I liked the convenience of being near the sim/class. Plus, few distractions itd be fun fun if they built the thing on the strip in Vegas, but then Id have washed out during Indoc with gambling rehab to follow. To celebrate not getting booted out, for the last week or so I found a cheap rental and made a few trips to the beach or wherever for a change of scenery a good decision.

I will say I sure was happy to be done but that was more about passing my check rides and looking forward to going home. Tailwinds Gents!
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:00 PM
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Any news from those who attended WAI yet?
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Old 04-01-2016, 12:03 PM
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Recurrent Question:

Before anyone digs into me, I've poked through the FSM for some answers but very vague.

I hit 2nd year pay at the end of April and have May recurrent and trying to figure out what to do.. I typically bid RSV as I'm in base but debating bidding a line and hustling in May.

What is daily credit in training? I was able to get DH credit in the FSM but couldn't find what we actually get per day in training.

If I bid RSV do I get those three days added into my schedule (so would be 13 RSV days in addition to the 3 recurrent days)?

I am assuming the DH and training pay would be towards RSV guarantee?

If a good hybrid line came out (doubtful) and anything overlapped to the training days, would I just get bumped from bidding given I am already pre booked?

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Old 04-01-2016, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmyD4JT View Post
Recurrent Question:

Before anyone digs into me, I've poked through the FSM for some answers but very vague.

I hit 2nd year pay at the end of April and have May recurrent and trying to figure out what to do.. I typically bid RSV as I'm in base but debating bidding a line and hustling in May.

What is daily credit in training? I was able to get DH credit in the FSM but couldn't find what we actually get per day in training.

If I bid RSV do I get those three days added into my schedule (so would be 13 RSV days in addition to the 3 recurrent days)?

I am assuming the DH and training pay would be towards RSV guarantee?

If a good hybrid line came out (doubtful) and anything overlapped to the training days, would I just get bumped from bidding given I am already pre booked?

Thanks
You get 18 hrs total credit for training including your travel credit (e.g. to/from JFK). Therefore, you start with 18 hrs credit when Navtech runs your bid request, and your 3 days of training are pre-assigned to start, not added in after. You will not have less than minimum guaranteed days off regardless of whether you have training or not (12, or 13 in a 31 day bid month).

Your 18 hrs on rsv goes toward your rsv guarantee, not above it. If you bid for s hybrid line which had a rsh day or trip that touches one of your training days, you will not get that line.

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Old 04-01-2016, 02:04 PM
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Just curious, if any of you would jump to UAL if given the opportunity (with 3 years or less seniority with us)?? If you would go, why and if you chose not to go, why not...?
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:17 PM
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Just curious, if any of you would jump to UAL if given the opportunity (with 3 years or less seniority with us)?? If you would go, why and if you chose not to go, why not...?
I'd go if I lived in one of their big hubs. Not having to commute would be huge.

But if that wasn't a factor then I'd stick with JB if you have been here a few years. Your career progression here will depend on growth, and at UAL it will depend on retirements. I think the retirement age will change soon, and that will stagnate everything at the legacies.

But that from the point of view from someone who has no plans to leave JB. Go ask some of the guys in the United forum and see what they have to say.
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:23 PM
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Sure sounds like some announcement will be made Monday. The rumors are sure out there from friends at VX. One heard from the director of training last night while doing his type ride that they were sold yesterday and official announcement Monday. Who knows. The west cost could get a huge influx of transfers.
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