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04-07-2016, 04:37 PM
#7661
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Originally Posted by Beechnut58
More so that the RJ mentality at a major needs to die and just call it what it is. A small narrow body. 100 seats or more is not an RJ.
04-08-2016, 01:36 AM
#7663
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,002
Originally Posted by sargeanb
Has anybody heard anything from this last hiring window in March? Anybody? Bueller??
04-08-2016, 06:39 AM
#7664
New Hire
Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 6
Originally Posted by nuball5
I haven't heard of anyone. I know someone with an interview coming up, but that was from the previous window. This is my fifth time applying....slowly coming to the realization that they just might not like me.
04-08-2016, 01:09 PM
#7665
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Blue fifi flogger
Posts: 736
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Except you're going to get apples to apples comparison pay since the EMB-190 is actually out there.....
I'm not trying to negotiate against ourselves, and I hope everyone gets a huge raise.....I'd just expect that the lion share of any pay increase will go to the Bus.....
I'm not trying to negotiate against ourselves, and I hope everyone gets a huge raise.....I'd just expect that the lion share of any pay increase will go to the Bus.....
Check Delta's 717 to Md88 differential, or UAs LNB/SNB for a direct comparison. I'm on the bus and will not support a CBA that relegates our 190 drivers to a secondary status. The jet flies higher, farther, and faster than a 717 and is NOT an RJ just because Embraer built it.
04-08-2016, 04:23 PM
#7666
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 988
Originally Posted by aewanabe
You're wrong. The 190 pays 90 percent of the applicable bus rate because it's our small narrowbody vs medium narrowbody. That scale was set back when our rates for the Bus were merely bad, and the 190 was utterly atrocious.
Check Delta's 717 to Md88 differential, or UAs LNB/SNB for a direct comparison. I'm on the bus and will not support a CBA that relegates our 190 drivers to a secondary status. The jet flies higher, farther, and faster than a 717 and is NOT an RJ just because Embraer built it.
Check Delta's 717 to Md88 differential, or UAs LNB/SNB for a direct comparison. I'm on the bus and will not support a CBA that relegates our 190 drivers to a secondary status. The jet flies higher, farther, and faster than a 717 and is NOT an RJ just because Embraer built it.
Not saying it's an RJ....just saying our 190 is right at the highest pay in the industry for its class while our Bus pay is at the bottom compared with its class (see the latest comparison our NC just sent out in an email).
The bottom line is, to tie the 190 to the Bus--especially at 90%, is ridiculous.
100 seats vs 162, or up to 200 with the 321 isn't even close.
It's nothing personal against the 190 or the guys who fly it......it's basic economics and math.
Feel free to make it emotional for you though, as you've obviously done based on your post..
04-08-2016, 06:43 PM
#7668
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Not saying it's an RJ....just saying our 190 is right at the highest pay in the industry for its class while our Bus pay is at the bottom compared with its class (see the latest comparison our NC just sent out in an email).
The bottom line is, to tie the 190 to the Bus--especially at 90%, is ridiculous.
100 seats vs 162, or up to 200 with the 321 isn't even close.
It's nothing personal against the 190 or the guys who fly it......it's basic economics and math.
Feel free to make it emotional for you though, as you've obviously done based on your post..
The bottom line is, to tie the 190 to the Bus--especially at 90%, is ridiculous.
100 seats vs 162, or up to 200 with the 321 isn't even close.
It's nothing personal against the 190 or the guys who fly it......it's basic economics and math.
Feel free to make it emotional for you though, as you've obviously done based on your post..
Is the 717 in the same class as the 190?
I say why not go for even higher pay and keep it at a 10% difference. We could really be industry leading.
04-08-2016, 07:06 PM
#7669
Covfefe
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 3,001
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Not saying it's an RJ....just saying our 190 is right at the highest pay in the industry for its class while our Bus pay is at the bottom compared with its class (see the latest comparison our NC just sent out in an email).
The bottom line is, to tie the 190 to the Bus--especially at 90%, is ridiculous.
100 seats vs 162, or up to 200 with the 321 isn't even close.
It's nothing personal against the 190 or the guys who fly it......it's basic economics and math.
Feel free to make it emotional for you though, as you've obviously done based on your post..
The bottom line is, to tie the 190 to the Bus--especially at 90%, is ridiculous.
100 seats vs 162, or up to 200 with the 321 isn't even close.
It's nothing personal against the 190 or the guys who fly it......it's basic economics and math.
Feel free to make it emotional for you though, as you've obviously done based on your post..
04-08-2016, 07:32 PM
#7670
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Posts: 988
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
The 190 guys fly an average of 4 legs with 100 pax each vs the bus guys flying 162-200 pax for an average of 1-2 legs. At least twice the take offs and landings with the same number of total pax for the day, or potentially more, on the 190. I've never heard a good reason why pay scales don't reflect that. Just out of curiosity, what would be the downside at JetBlue of having only one pay scale for all aircraft?
As far as 1 payscale...other than UPS (which flies boxes, not people), who else does that?
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