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Old 03-06-2022, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Do you really or are you just happy to be hear because it's so much better than where you came from. This is why we can't have nice things.
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Also we canít have nice things because some think the only way to do things is painting a false doom and gloom picture. Again thereís plenty of actual real things that have been said here that are problems to fix and are true. If saying yes to everything doesnít help the other extreme doesnít either. That negativity and exaggeration some use really just pushes people away. When I talk I like people to believe me, so I donít go blowing smoke here or on the line. Again plenty of actual problems to fix.
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Old 03-07-2022, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
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Also we canít have nice things because some think the only way to do things is painting a false doom and gloom picture. Again thereís plenty of actual real things that have been said here that are problems to fix and are true. If saying yes to everything doesnít help the other extreme doesnít either. That negativity and exaggeration some use really just pushes people away. When I talk I like people to believe me, so I donít go blowing smoke here or on the line. Again plenty of actual problems to fix.
Got me. I was 100 whiskies in last night and didn't QC my spell check. Well done. You, and people like you, who are just happy to have a slice of pizza and a pat on the back and don't like to rock the boat are reasons why the company laughs their a$$es off at us. It's why they disregard our contract daily. It's why they look at us losing a pilot a day and shrug their shoulders and continue on. But please, continue to live in your blissful life. Let me guess, NH or MA homestead? Maybe FLL.
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Got me. I was 100 whiskies in last night and didn't QC my spell check. Well done. You, and people like you, who are just happy to have a slice of pizza and a pat on the back and don't like to rock the boat are reasons why the company laughs their a$$es off at us. It's why they disregard our contract daily. It's why they look at us losing a pilot a day and shrug their shoulders and continue on. But please, continue to live in your blissful life. Let me guess, NH or MA homestead? Maybe FLL.
FLL Base. Do you think the company doesnít laugh at people like you claiming wild things? Those claims make pilots look ignorant. No wonder we have the reputation we have. Because I actually care about getting a better contract despite what you may think is the reason I wish the ones on here talking nonsense would actually think before being so dramatic. We arenít a ďsweatshopĒ, we arenít losing 2 a day, we arenít the worse airline because we are the worse with on time performance because thatís not the only measure to determine how good an airline is. Instead thereís so many actual issues in Jetblue that we canít fight for we donít even need to make any up or overreact to. Starting with the backlog in training. I could careless if JetBlue loses money or not there and itís not my job to tell them how to do it, instead Iíll continue to raise my voice at changing the training pay cutoff time, at making sure they have to give more notice before cancellation so people donít feel hostage in Orlando. Making sure they respect the contract we have, listen and educate myself on the AIP for the NEA settlement. Before you think Iím just happy to collect a check, stop and think of what Iím saying. Youíd realize weíre fighting in the same team. I just donít think the way to win a war is running towards your enemy with a bayonet.
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
FLL Base. Do you think the company doesnít laugh at people like you claiming wild things? Those claims make pilots look ignorant. No wonder we have the reputation we have. Because I actually care about getting a better contract despite what you may think is the reason I wish the ones on here talking nonsense would actually think before being so dramatic. We arenít a ďsweatshopĒ, we arenít losing 2 a day, we arenít the worse airline because we are the worse with on time performance because thatís not the only measure to determine how good an airline is. Instead thereís so many actual issues in Jetblue that we canít fight for we donít even need to make any up or overreact to. Starting with the backlog in training. I could careless if JetBlue loses money or not there and itís not my job to tell them how to do it, instead Iíll continue to raise my voice at changing the training pay cutoff time, at making sure they have to give more notice before cancellation so people donít feel hostage in Orlando. Making sure they respect the contract we have, listen and educate myself on the AIP for the NEA settlement. Before you think Iím just happy to collect a check, stop and think of what Iím saying. Youíd realize weíre fighting in the same team. I just donít think the way to win a war is running towards your enemy with a bayonet.
What wild claims have I made? Do you think this pilot group is galvanized and knows its worth or do you think there's a battered spouse feel to it and are just happy to be alive? We almost voted in a POS LOA with a 2% raise only after the company blatantly violated the contract. We'll overwhelmingly vote in the TA after the MEC votes yes on the final language of the AIP. So we gave up stuff in the contract because we had industry leading Scope and now we're just going to roll over and give that up now too. So maybe there are people who are emotional about this but what may be a "wild claim" to you may not be so wild to others. Stop championing the company party line. You're not helping.
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
What wild claims have I made? Do you think this pilot group is galvanized and knows its worth or do you think there's a battered spouse feel to it and are just happy to be alive? We almost voted in a POS LOA with a 2% raise only after the company blatantly violated the contract. We'll overwhelmingly vote in the TA after the MEC votes yes on the final language of the AIP. So we gave up stuff in the contract because we had industry leading Scope and now we're just going to roll over and give that up now too. So maybe there are people who are emotional about this but what may be a "wild claim" to you may not be so wild to others. Stop championing the company party line. You're not helping.
Everything you just said Iíve been very vocal about. To my friends and peers on the line and on here (go check). Iím not saying youíre the one that has made wild claims but you reacted to my reaction of some wild claims (which Iíve listed above) so itís almost as Iíve youíre defending the idea of saying those things. Itís scary how many pilots will just accept anything, the blatant disrespect from the company to our contract and scope is disgraceful. Like I said, my thing is emphasize real issues like those instead of Monday morning quarterbacking operations that we know little to nothing about. I do believe Iím helping, hoping people will listen and focus on the things they actually can control instead of speculating on a message board how many pilots we will retain.
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
Everything you just said Iíve been very vocal about. To my friends and peers on the line and on here (go check). Iím not saying youíre the one that has made wild claims but you reacted to my reaction of some wild claims (which Iíve listed above) so itís almost as Iíve youíre defending the idea of saying those things. Itís scary how many pilots will just accept anything, the blatant disrespect from the company to our contract and scope is disgraceful. Like I said, my thing is emphasize real issues like those instead of Monday morning quarterbacking operations that we know little to nothing about. I do believe Iím helping, hoping people will listen and focus on the things they actually can control instead of speculating on a message board how many pilots we will retain.
Fair enough.
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Fair enough.
Look at JetBlue hiring messages. The company is slapping us in the face disregarding our scope but yet we are focused on pilot retention? Lol. Thatís exactly my point. Thatís not our job thatís the companyís job to figure out. Why arenít we focusing on the actual things we have to focus on.
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Old 03-07-2022, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KNOTAPILOT
FLL Base. Do you think the company doesnít laugh at people like you (who are) claiming wild things? Those claims make pilots look ignorant. (It is) no wonder we have the reputation we have. (Starting a sentence with a conjunction, sentence fragment) Because I actually care about getting a better contract despite what you may think is the reason (missing punctuation) I wish the ones on here talking nonsense would actually think before being so dramatic. We arenít a ďsweatshopĒ, we arenít losing 2 (numbers less than 10 should spelled out, "two" for example) a day, we arenít the worse (worst) airline because we are the worse (worst) with on time performance because thatís not the only measure to determine how good an airline is (two separate conjunctions in one sentence without proper punctuation to split ideas). Instead(,) thereís so many actual issues in (at) JetBlue that we canít fight for (that) we donít even need to make any up or overreact to. Starting with the backlog in training (Incomplete sentence). I could careless (care less, it's not the word careless, that's much different​​​​​​​) (Also, you are stating that you could care less. What you most likely meant to say was that you could not care less.) if JetBlue loses money or not there and itís not my job to tell them how to do it, (​​​​​​​Should have started a new sentence here) instead Iíll continue to raise my voice at changing the training pay cutoff time, at making sure they have to give more notice before cancellation so people donít feel hostage in Orlando. Making sure they respect the contract we have, listen and educate myself on the AIP for the NEA settlement (Incomplete sentence, should have been part of the last sentence). Before you think Iím just happy to collect a check, stop and think of what Iím saying. Youíd realize weíre fighting in (on) the same team. I just donít think the way to win a war is running towards your enemy with a bayonet.
You seriously called him out on here versus hear?
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Old 03-07-2022, 07:15 AM
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Yíall better better straighten up! GP is on scene.
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Old 03-07-2022, 07:49 AM
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Yíall better better straighten up! GP is on scene.
ĒGrammerĒ. Lol. Nice.
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