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10-06-2022, 05:05 AM
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From my friend at the schoolhouse
Trying to get rid of the 190s as soon as possible. Hopefully before 2025. Because of delivery delays in the 220s and 321 LR/XLRs, that’s not possible right now. Going forward it’s basically a Northeast shuttle aircraft to satisfy contractual obligations under the NEA and to fulfill slot obligations in JFK.
Hawaii is pretty much a done deal. Likely scenario is initially out of LAX and then SFO. Would be done with regular NEOs not LRs or XLRs.
More flying to return to FLL and a little more to MCO. When we decided to make the summer cuts, those were the only two places we could do it. JFK is slot restricted; expecting BOS to be soon. Management really wants to grow LAX so that was off the table especially in lieu of future Hawaiian plans.
Airbus has approached us about the 330s. Preliminary discussions but nothing serious. At best that would be 5-10 years down the road.
All Spirit hubs are in the running to continue with JetBlue except Atlantic City and probably Las Vegas. Three strongest non JB contenders are Chicago, either DFW or IAH, and ATL.
Hawaii is pretty much a done deal. Likely scenario is initially out of LAX and then SFO. Would be done with regular NEOs not LRs or XLRs.
More flying to return to FLL and a little more to MCO. When we decided to make the summer cuts, those were the only two places we could do it. JFK is slot restricted; expecting BOS to be soon. Management really wants to grow LAX so that was off the table especially in lieu of future Hawaiian plans.
Airbus has approached us about the 330s. Preliminary discussions but nothing serious. At best that would be 5-10 years down the road.
All Spirit hubs are in the running to continue with JetBlue except Atlantic City and probably Las Vegas. Three strongest non JB contenders are Chicago, either DFW or IAH, and ATL.
10-07-2022, 06:31 PM
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Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
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Originally Posted by Cranjis McBball
Trying to get rid of the 190s as soon as possible. Hopefully before 2025. Because of delivery delays in the 220s and 321 LR/XLRs, that’s not possible right now. Going forward it’s basically a Northeast shuttle aircraft to satisfy contractual obligations under the NEA and to fulfill slot obligations in JFK.
Hawaii is pretty much a done deal. Likely scenario is initially out of LAX and then SFO. Would be done with regular NEOs not LRs or XLRs.
More flying to return to FLL and a little more to MCO. When we decided to make the summer cuts, those were the only two places we could do it. JFK is slot restricted; expecting BOS to be soon. Management really wants to grow LAX so that was off the table especially in lieu of future Hawaiian plans.
Airbus has approached us about the 330s. Preliminary discussions but nothing serious. At best that would be 5-10 years down the road.
All Spirit hubs are in the running to continue with JetBlue except Atlantic City and probably Las Vegas. Three strongest non JB contenders are Chicago, either DFW or IAH, and ATL.
Hawaii is pretty much a done deal. Likely scenario is initially out of LAX and then SFO. Would be done with regular NEOs not LRs or XLRs.
More flying to return to FLL and a little more to MCO. When we decided to make the summer cuts, those were the only two places we could do it. JFK is slot restricted; expecting BOS to be soon. Management really wants to grow LAX so that was off the table especially in lieu of future Hawaiian plans.
Airbus has approached us about the 330s. Preliminary discussions but nothing serious. At best that would be 5-10 years down the road.
All Spirit hubs are in the running to continue with JetBlue except Atlantic City and probably Las Vegas. Three strongest non JB contenders are Chicago, either DFW or IAH, and ATL.
why would they get rid of Vegas? Even ACY could do ok
10-07-2022, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by IPAsallday
So let me get this straight, a airplane manufacturer asked us if we wanted to buy more expensive airplanes? That is some how news from management! “yea that will stop attrition for the next 10 yrs”. gmafb
10-08-2022, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Louie
There are pilots that choose other airlines because they want to fly a wide-body aircraft. So yea, it might help attrition if you show them that can be possible with JetBlue.
10-08-2022, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by IPAsallday
So let me get this straight, a airplane manufacturer asked us if we wanted to buy more expensive airplanes? That is some how news from management! “yea that will stop attrition for the next 10 yrs”. gmafb
10-08-2022, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Apophenia
Even with a large initial order of say 15 widebody aircraft 5 years from now, that’s only 150-200 pilots in each seat at a time. The majority of pilots on property would probably never see it. Add to that the lack of retirement churn. There’s plenty of 23-25 year olds that have been getting hired in the last several years, that won’t be retiring until 2055-2060.
10-08-2022, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Apophenia
Even with a large initial order of say 15 widebody aircraft 5 years from now, that’s only 150-200 pilots in each seat at a time. The majority of pilots on property would probably never see it. Add to that the lack of retirement churn. There’s plenty of 23-25 year olds that have been getting hired in the last several years, that won’t be retiring until 2055-2060.
10-08-2022, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
Imagine 150-200 senior pilots out of your way. It’s a big difference.
10-08-2022, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Now imagine you just got hired on as number 4800, and are thinking of going to Delta, American or United, not that big a difference...
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