Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

I’ve been at spirit quite some time and never really used DTZ. I always figured maybe a drop to 40 with red/green intact would be essentially the same for scheduling flexibility bc I never worked under guarantee anyway.

However, this summer I am seeing new opportunities for DTZ. At my seniority my bids get weekends and holidays off so my working days are always green at the start of open time.

My kids are kind of at a sweet spot age where they are easy to travel with and also still like being around us. This summer it looks like we have nothing and everything planned at the same time. No camps or obligations tying us to home. We have pretty much decided to be a little nomadic while the kids are out of school. Visit some family, see some of our beautiful country, and some international travel. Dates are flexible. Maybe we will be home a little in between events or gone for a month or more.

I plan to fully use DTZ this summer. Start each month with a clean schedule and zero pay. As our schedule of fun evolves I’ll pick up trips in any number of our bases depending on our location at the time, perhaps maybe even some premium pay if it’s possible. I think I can still allow for tons of fun time and still credit near guarantee working out of multiple bases as I see fit. Visit a national park maybe pop out for an easy two day. Visit SIL in another spirit domicile and gab a couple turns while wife and kids are visiting. Maybe work a week straight after a two week Europe trip without vacation.

Point being I never really used fully the DTZ and especially now bc my seniority gets nearly everything I want in my bid it wasn’t a huge priority to me. Red/green was never up for debate. Now I’m seeing the DTZ potential

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

Throughout these debates I've thought and sometimes said, red/green benefits every pilot. DTZ may benefit, some pilots, some of the time. It's important to understand that when decisions need to be made.

Originally Posted by Centerlined

Ok, with that logic, VDA should be considered the same. What is more beneficial to the entire group? Premium open time for anyone who wants it, FCFS; not just the most senior pilots.

Originally Posted by Noisecanceller

I… I plan to fully use DTZ this summer. Start each month with a clean schedule and zero pay. As our schedule of fun evolves I’ll pick up trips in any number of our bases depending on our location at the time, perhaps maybe even some premium pay if it’s possible. I think I can still allow for tons of fun time and still credit near guarantee working out of multiple bases as I see fit. Visit a national park maybe pop out for an easy two day. Visit SIL in another spirit domicile and gab a couple turns while wife and kids are visiting. Maybe work a week straight after a two week Europe trip without vacation.

Point being I never really used fully the DTZ and especially now bc my seniority gets nearly everything I want in my bid it wasn’t a huge priority to me. Red/green was never up for debate. Now I’m seeing the DTZ potential

Originally Posted by GWY320

You are correct. In the smaller bases, three guys DTZ and the rest of the month is red. You’ll have to call out sick.

Originally Posted by Flyby1206

Are your bid adjustment windows seniority based? Or first come first served? I’d love to see a first window DTZ by first come first served which would spread the drop ability instead of just a few senior guys.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver

So the 3 guys with the fastest connection or the best BOT get to turn the grid red for the rest of us?

Originally Posted by Flyby1206

Are your bid adjustment windows seniority based? Or first come first served? I’d love to see a first window DTZ by first come first served which would spread the drop ability instead of just a few senior guys.

Originally Posted by GWY320

First drop window (Initial Open Time) is seniority based. This is where the grid has to be 75% green. This is open for two days and is processed in seniority order. Usually after this closes and is posted, the gird mostly goes red (in smaller understaffed bases, can’t speak to the FLL and MCO mega bases).

The second opportunity to drop will be Daily Open Time, which follows the day after the close of Initial Open Time. Begins at noon and is processed first come, first served.