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Old 06-17-2018, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
I heard some new Delta pilots in the terminal talking about how they are only staying at Delta until JB finishes it's fleet review. Then coming here.
Love it- Never knew you had such a sense of humor.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
Movement over work rules? Interesting.
What do work rules matter if you're stuck at the bottom of a seniority list where you can't take advantage of them AND you're furlough fodder? I've played that game. Sat at the bottom of the XJT list long enough to never get off reserve and never benefit from any of the great work rules, and then I was furloughed for 2.5 years.

What do pay rates mean without work rules? You pointed out yourself that American has traditionally suffered from high rates and low work rules.

So yes, I'd leave here today if I wasn't gaining seniority and putting people between myself and being furloughed again, even if we had the best work rules and pay rates.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609 View Post
What do work rules matter if you're stuck at the bottom of a seniority list where you can't take advantage of them AND you're furlough fodder? I've played that game. Sat at the bottom of the XJT list long enough to never get off reserve and never benefit from any of the great work rules, and then I was furloughed for 2.5 years.

What do pay rates mean without work rules? You pointed out yourself that American has traditionally suffered from high rates and low work rules.

So yes, I'd leave here today if I wasn't gaining seniority and putting people between myself and being furloughed again, even if we had the best work rules and pay rates.
Im not sure if you're reading my posts Train.
Work rules help the full spectrum of seniority. Did I ever say pay rates over anything btw? No. Stop being pugilistic for the sake of appearing aggressive. Its childish.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
Im not sure if you're reading my posts Train.
Work rules help the full spectrum of seniority. Did I ever say pay rates over anythingbtw? No. Stop being pugilistic for the sake of appearing aggressive. Its childish.
Calmer than you are.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jtrain609 View Post
Calmer than you are.
Did you forget Na-na na na-NA?
Keep it going - this is batting practice.
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:29 PM
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Did you forget Na-na na na-NA?
Keep it going - this is batting practice.
You've seriously never seen The Big Lebowski?
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:34 PM
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You've seriously never seen The Big Lebowski?
Didnt think you had- Figured you for a kid. Sorry and good post
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Old 06-17-2018, 12:49 PM
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You are giving out career advice? If its not a career place why are you here? or Why did you come here? You came here when rates and work rules lagged already?....... Just curious?
Itís a public board and the guy asked. There are better airlines to work for than jetblue in my opinion.
Furloughed and then got stuck. Too far in I guess.
This was the only option at the time. Needed the job.

Thatís about it.
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:03 PM
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Itís a public board and the guy asked. There are better airlines to work for than jetblue in my opinion.
Furloughed and then got stuck. Too far in I guess.
This was the only option at the time. Needed the job.

Thatís about it.
I agree with much that you post. Maybe they are in your shoes? Maybe they are in mine? Who knows? Nobody knows. I will say that many came here (knowing just as you and I did)..the lagging. Yet now they are saying don't come here and they don't plan on leaving.

Is it do as I say not as a do?
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Old 06-17-2018, 05:24 PM
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I agree with much that you post. Maybe they are in your shoes? Maybe they are in mine? Who knows? Nobody knows. I will say that many came here (knowing just as you and I did)..the lagging. Yet now they are saying don't come here and they don't plan on leaving.

Is it do as I say not as a do?
Sort of. The rhetoric on this board certainly does exceed its purpose but I still believe in the truth between the lines. My intentions are certainly not to insult you or anyone else but, rather, paint a very clear picture of what jetblue truly is. This cult like approach to running an airline is something potential candidates must be aware of. This is a company unlike any other, truly a marketing arm flying planes.

The very idea that we should celebrate the little victories(as gigity penned in her letter to the employees) strikes a cord. It suggests that we are unable to master the idea of a well run operation and therefore be pleased in the effort rather than the execution. This is the mentality driving the airline. Why would I invite or support someone with potential and options coming to jetblue?
I appreciate that you enjoy your job and the airline and please donít take his commentary as suggesting anything else. This place is truly a cult in my eyes and history has repeatedly borne the end result.
My hope is that we are merged somewhere along the way so those who are here will not endure the furloughs many of us did in years past.
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