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Old 07-03-2020, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by copy View Post
There is something big/material (I donít know what) that will be announced in the next couple weeks. I didnít want to speculate, but since everyone else is, my guess is 190s are done and there will be a lot of displacements.
Bingo- Why keep the 190s? Those routes are dead now anyway and they can displace guys to the 320 right seat, some to the left and wait for the recovery in 2022.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot View Post
Bingo- Why keep the 190s? Those routes are dead now anyway and they can displace guys to the 320 right seat, some to the left and wait for the recovery in 2022.
Definitely possible, but seems to be beyond the scope of this LOA (Section 23 doesn't mention displacements). Our CBA has provisions for displacements already, no need for amendments.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
Any relief given snaps back on May 1. So I donít see a codeshare being that relief.
Not if JB is growing again.

Also, scope doesn't allow them to AMEND a codeshare. If it's agreed to now, and JB still isn't growing in May 2021, it may not invalidate a codeshare signed right now.

Just theoretical discussion.

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Old 07-03-2020, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16 View Post
AAL.

Look at the moves theyíre making. Closing LAX. Giving up slots in JFK. Downsizing BOS even more.

Tea leaves are strong with this one.

Not saying itís a merger. But thereís some kind of JB/AAL relationship building here:
Hey Bunker, Stickey from Luke.

What are your thoughts on your MEC's recent announcement about no furlough agreement through May 21? Some guys over here at UAL think that signals a possible merger with us since we've not made any early out offers or other furlough mitigation measures and management has pretty strongly telegraphed a 30% reduction. Then there's the omnipresent rumor about a UAL-JB merger that's been circulating for years.
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Viperstick View Post
Hey Bunker, Stickey from Luke.

What are your thoughts on your MEC's recent announcement about no furlough agreement through May 21? Some guys over here at UAL think that signals a possible merger with us since we've not made any early out offers or other furlough mitigation measures and management has pretty strongly telegraphed a 30% reduction. Then there's the omnipresent rumor about a UAL-JB merger that's been circulating for years.
Hey brother! Long time no hear! Hope all is well. As for the agreement, our MEC is still under an NDA and they said they hope more information can be put out in a few weeks. While the JB-UA rumor has circulated over here for years too, I don't think that's what this is. If you put a gun to my head, I'd say we just signed some kind of agreement with AAL. They're pulling their international hub out of LAX. There's rumors we're going to close LGB and move all west coast operations to LAX. I've hear AAL is giving up slots in JFK and reducing ops even more in Boston.

Again, just a bunch of pilots sitting around the sewing club speculating after they specifically told us not to, but you know pilots. We do what we want.

If you hear anything more on your side, let me know. Talk to ya later!
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:19 AM
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Gather round for Flyby making stupid predictions:

JB delivery schedule (pg 33):
https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc=/Archives...20form10-q.htm
A220s, 1 in 2020 and 7 in 2021.

Breeze deliveries start April 2021:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...launch-to-2021

DL taking 6 A220-300s in 2020:
https://thepointsguy.com/news/airbus...led-in-mobile/

A220 production list (note MSNs 55142-55146 are unassigned):
https://www.abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html

Mobile plant produces 1-2 A220s/mo:
https://leehamnews.com/2020/04/08/ai...es-by-a-third/

2020 A220s Mobile:
55069 DL (damaged in assembly)
55070 DL (flight testing BFM)
55075 DL on FAL
55080 DL
55084 DL
55085 DL
55099 B6 on FAL

2021 A220s Mobile (11 airframes):
55096 DL
55101 DL
55104 B6
55107 DL
55108 B6
55113 B6
55115 B6
55120 B6
55124 B6
55128 Breeze
55132 B6

2022 A220s Mobile:
55137 B6

Looking at all of the above it seems the 2021 Mobile FAL is showing about 5-6 airframes fewer than would be projected otherwise. I am going to make a wild guess and say B6 takes 5 more A220s in 2021, and possibly even pull 1 more delivery forward into 2020. The unassigned airframes could be slotted for Breeze, although it doesn't inspire confidence since DL and B6 have slots assigned but only 1 for Breeze so far. Delta has 7 additional projected deliveries for 2021, but again they aren't firmed up on the schedule yet, which might be telling as well considering DL already shows on the schedule for other 2020-2021 slots. Thoughts? Will Delta fill the unassigned slots? Will Airbus cut Mobile production to 1/mo?
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:24 AM
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Anyone know what the moving expenses are in the CBA. I'm on a boat and I just wondered?
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:31 AM
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Anyone know what the moving expenses are in the CBA. I'm on a boat and I just wondered?
You name that boat FLICA-Bot?
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Old 07-03-2020, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by localizer View Post
Well with that logic we can throw out codeshare, merger, regional model, etc.

Yeah Iíd say so.
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Old 07-03-2020, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
You name that boat FLICA-Bot?
LMAO! no...

it's called sheWorks
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