Delta Pilots Association
02-23-2011 | 02:58 PM
#4452
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From: 747-400 Captain
02-23-2011 | 06:12 PM
#4453
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From: right for a long, long time
Truth be told there are victories and failures in both the independent unions and in ALPA. To deny that positives and negatives occur via both types of representation is to be ignorant.
02-24-2011 | 03:26 AM
#4454
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In truth, SWAPA, APA, and other independents are just riding on the coattails of ALPA. If there were no large national union with the clout of ALPA, SWAPA would be forming one, and not a toothless CAPA. The trick is to get these other carriers on board and have them pull their own weight. APA seems to be getting it now, SWAPA will learn once their management decides not to play nice anymore. SWAPA is slowly getting pushed out of their little bubble and rejoining the real world.
02-24-2011 | 04:06 AM
#4455
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From: Flying the SEC
SWA and UAL are a different story. They both carry passengers. That's about the extent of the similarities. The failure of UAL management and the success of SWA management can hardly be laid at the feet of ALPA.
02-24-2011 | 06:10 AM
#4456
No longer cares
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From: 767er Captain
In truth, SWAPA, APA, and other independents are just riding on the coattails of ALPA. If there were no large national union with the clout of ALPA, SWAPA would be forming one, and not a toothless CAPA. The trick is to get these other carriers on board and have them pull their own weight. APA seems to be getting it now, SWAPA will learn once their management decides not to play nice anymore. SWAPA is slowly getting pushed out of their little bubble and rejoining the real world.
02-24-2011 | 10:05 AM
#4457
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From: Flying the SEC
How about our annual increases and DC bumps since the merger? How about the SOT and commuting policy change? I know it doesn't count as an improvement to you, T, but to an outsider X + Y = >X
02-24-2011 | 11:21 AM
#4458
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- Had major influence on the FT/DT legislation (or did you want management to have the only voice)
- Got the Roth IRA/Rollover bill passed
- Got the normal IRA legislation through the Senate
- Lobbied to get Haneda slots (notice the 747 bids)
- Lobbied to get the Heathrow slots (notice the 767 bids)
- Had major influence on the new pilot hour requirements changes
- Successfully negotiated $750 mm in merger stock
- Successfully negotiated 20% increase in our compensation (30 for fNW) while the company was losing money
02-24-2011 | 11:46 AM
#4459
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From: A-320A
How about SOT scheduling changes now out of section six.
A merger that worked.
No furloughs this last downturn
Rollback of the cutout for Non-sked 121 carriers in the FAA re-authorization bill.
Six way protocol with the major skyteam partners that has management on non-union carriers in countries where unions are illegal, recognize us, AF pilots et al as the a bargaining agent. Huge first step!
A merger that worked.
No furloughs this last downturn
Rollback of the cutout for Non-sked 121 carriers in the FAA re-authorization bill.
Six way protocol with the major skyteam partners that has management on non-union carriers in countries where unions are illegal, recognize us, AF pilots et al as the a bargaining agent. Huge first step!
02-24-2011 | 11:54 AM
#4460
At home on the maddog!
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From: Retired (mandatory age 65)
- Lowered expectations of many in our pilot group and allowed management to have expectations for continued lower pilot costs and labor harmony going forward.
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