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08-12-2011 | 06:04 PM
#5981
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From: Light Chop
Slow the "dysfunctional legal quagmire brought on by serving too many masters" is ALPA national, somehow you missed that. 
By chance are you, like the DPA, desirous of reducing the number of 70+ seat RJs per c2012? I hope so.
By chance are you, like the DPA, desirous of reducing the number of 70+ seat RJs per c2012? I hope so.
08-12-2011 | 08:54 PM
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Carl
08-12-2011 | 09:02 PM
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08-12-2011 | 09:04 PM
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Yes, because they are an independent law firm that commits to viciously defending their clients. In contrast, ALPA lawyers defend whatever group might ultimately bring ALPA more members, even if they have to defend a group that are NOT THEIR CLIENTS. This is not my opinion. A jury just handed down this exact verdict in the TWA case.
Carl
08-12-2011 | 09:08 PM
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Here's what you keep missing. In the eyes of USAPA pilots, they are NOT wasting their money. Their strategy (aided by the legal help of Seham's firm) has kept that seniority list off their property for years now. You and I may not agree with that strategy, but you must admit that so far it has worked.
Carl
Carl
08-12-2011 | 09:37 PM
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08-12-2011 | 10:07 PM
#5988
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This reasonable request is well within the capability of the company to comply with, but outside of the capability of the MEC to obtain due to the potential of lawsuits from the regional carriers that will be harmed by this type of maneuver.......
Here is the true bottom line: The DAL MEC Negotiating Committee IS REQUIRED pack up and head to National and sit down with all the Negotiating Committees of the regional carriers that serve DAL, PRIOR TO beginning talks with management. They are REQUIRED to "work with each other to develop a consensus on proposals".
Here is the true bottom line: The DAL MEC Negotiating Committee IS REQUIRED pack up and head to National and sit down with all the Negotiating Committees of the regional carriers that serve DAL, PRIOR TO beginning talks with management. They are REQUIRED to "work with each other to develop a consensus on proposals".
Isn't the new United seeking to limit 70/76 seaters? I might be wrong, but I thought that they were somehow negotiating to restrict scope, cut back on the number of larger RJs and filed some grievance over it. Anyone got the facts on that?
Your second point is interesting, what happens if they don't reach consensus? Was there consensus at United?
08-12-2011 | 10:18 PM
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As to "dysfunctional legal quagmire brought on by serving too many masters" are they talking about their lawfirm? SSMP serve airline management AND labor? After APA's B-scale contract they were let go and became the lawyers for AICA, an independent union trying to split from an independent union. $57,000 a week from USAPA pilots. Talk about serving too many masters...
08-12-2011 | 10:24 PM
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Here's what you keep missing. In the eyes of USAPA pilots, they are NOT wasting their money. Their strategy (aided by the legal help of Seham's firm) has kept that seniority list off their property for years now. You and I may not agree with that strategy, but you must admit that so far it has worked.
Carl
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