jetblue pilot poolies
06-29-2012 | 06:46 PM
#61
The REAL Bluedriver
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From: Airbus Capt
I used to share your perspective, but frankly the Skinner's email is the last straw for me. I have officially "grown up" as a JetBlue pilot. When I came to the bus after 3 years on the 190, I was the guy constantly asking Captains if I could shut down 2, taxi out on 1, etc. I was the guy where the back-end crew constantly said "thanks for your help, we don't see many 320 guys back here". No more. JetBlue has effectively kept us at or below average total compensation when compared to our Bankrupt peers, and now they want to reneg on the one part of the process that's worked somewhat for us? In the same breath that they are begging us to cover the holes in the operation?
No more from this guy. If the captain says start 2, then I'm able to more safely monitor the taxi. I can effectively say Hi from the cockpit, and I do. And blue gloves are for janitors, not professional pilots. At this point I just don't care if you disagree.
No more from this guy. If the captain says start 2, then I'm able to more safely monitor the taxi. I can effectively say Hi from the cockpit, and I do. And blue gloves are for janitors, not professional pilots. At this point I just don't care if you disagree.
I am saying you are hurting yourself and other pilots more than you are hurting jetBlue management.
Are you sending out resumes now or when others start hiring?
06-29-2012 | 06:46 PM
#62
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From: Airbus Capt
06-29-2012 | 09:04 PM
#63
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From: Blue fifi flogger
AE, you are obviously a good man and make some valid points but I think these guys swimming in our pool will be happy to hear this news! In fact, I have two friends from Comair in the pool now who can't wait to escape that sinking ship and fly for JB. Sometimes we just need to put things in perspective to realize that we don't have it so bad. As much as I agree with some of your frustrations, I will continue to take the high road and clean cabins, do stand-up PAs and not start #2 until necessary, but hey, I won't hate on those who don't want to play along. Have a good weekend.
War Eagle!
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06-29-2012 | 09:12 PM
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From: Blue fifi flogger
Word on the street is that there are peculiarities unique to PR labor law which would render a crew base quite inefficient.
Also BD, while I'm not applying to anywhere currently hiring, my AirlineApps profile is updated in anticipation of hiring at DL and Unical. That's how little faith I have in leadership. I didn't feel that way five, four, or even two years ago.
Also BD, while I'm not applying to anywhere currently hiring, my AirlineApps profile is updated in anticipation of hiring at DL and Unical. That's how little faith I have in leadership. I didn't feel that way five, four, or even two years ago.
06-29-2012 | 09:25 PM
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AE, you are obviously a good man and make some valid points but I think these guys swimming in our pool will be happy to hear this news! In fact, I have two friends from Comair in the pool now who can't wait to escape that sinking ship and fly for JB. Sometimes we just need to put things in perspective to realize that we don't have it so bad. As much as I agree with some of your frustrations, I will continue to take the high road and clean cabins, do stand-up PAs and not start #2 until necessary, but hey, I won't hate on those who don't want to play along. Have a good weekend.
War Eagle!
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06-30-2012 | 04:38 AM
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Word on the street is that there are peculiarities unique to PR labor law which would render a crew base quite inefficient.
Also BD, while I'm not applying to anywhere currently hiring, my AirlineApps profile is updated in anticipation of hiring at DL and Unical. That's how little faith I have in leadership. I didn't feel that way five, four, or even two years ago.
Also BD, while I'm not applying to anywhere currently hiring, my AirlineApps profile is updated in anticipation of hiring at DL and Unical. That's how little faith I have in leadership. I didn't feel that way five, four, or even two years ago.
I'm not stiring the pot or trying to incite the bluebells its just a sad realization as to the future of the airline. It's still a decent job but Jetblue leadership does not intend for this to be a career.
For those in the pool do yourself a favor and keep your options open. There stands to be significant hiring on the horizon.
06-30-2012 | 06:04 AM
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From: Blue fifi flogger
A stand up PA is when you do the welcome aboard spiel from the cabin, vice the cockpit.
06-30-2012 | 08:23 AM
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Having been privy to some of the behinds the scenes action I too have update my AirlineApps profile. It was a tough decision but based on many recent events it has been made clear to me that Jetblue does not intend to ever make this airline a career destination.
I'm not stiring the pot or trying to incite the bluebells its just a sad realization as to the future of the airline. It's still a decent job but Jetblue leadership does not intend for this to be a career.
For those in the pool do yourself a favor and keep your options open. There stands to be significant hiring on the horizon.
I'm not stiring the pot or trying to incite the bluebells its just a sad realization as to the future of the airline. It's still a decent job but Jetblue leadership does not intend for this to be a career.
For those in the pool do yourself a favor and keep your options open. There stands to be significant hiring on the horizon.
06-30-2012 | 12:04 PM
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I'm out as well. I put my time in, did what I could and things never change. Without turning this into a union/anti-union argument the only way airlines provide pilots with industry standard benefits is via negotiations. Since 1193 nuckleheads voted to give Jetblue management cart blanche to gut our pay, benefits, retirement and disability we are on the continued spiral downward.
This last email by CS only re-emphasizes what the pro-union advocates already knew. Jetblue, as stated in the email, has no desire to make Jetblue a career destination by traditional standards. If you want free pizza and barbecues then Jetblue is for you. If you want retirement, insurance or disability then please make your way to the door.
What a joke.
This last email by CS only re-emphasizes what the pro-union advocates already knew. Jetblue, as stated in the email, has no desire to make Jetblue a career destination by traditional standards. If you want free pizza and barbecues then Jetblue is for you. If you want retirement, insurance or disability then please make your way to the door.
What a joke.
06-30-2012 | 12:48 PM
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I'm out as well. I put my time in, did what I could and things never change. Without turning this into a union/anti-union argument the only way airlines provide pilots with industry standard benefits is via negotiations. Since 1193 nuckleheads voted to give Jetblue management cart blanche to gut our pay, benefits, retirement and disability we are on the continued spiral downward.
This last email by CS only re-emphasizes what the pro-union advocates already knew. Jetblue, as stated in the email, has no desire to make Jetblue a career destination by traditional standards. If you want free pizza and barbecues then Jetblue is for you. If you want retirement, insurance or disability then please make your way to the door.
What a joke.
This last email by CS only re-emphasizes what the pro-union advocates already knew. Jetblue, as stated in the email, has no desire to make Jetblue a career destination by traditional standards. If you want free pizza and barbecues then Jetblue is for you. If you want retirement, insurance or disability then please make your way to the door.
What a joke.
And don't let it hit you in the a$$ on the way out. Good riddance.
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