Mesa issues warn notice to pilots
09-03-2020 | 04:40 PM
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Dont know why your upset with me. All I did was help your argument. My position is I dont trust JO or the union. When you have been here long enough you know you cant. The union had stabbed us in the back several times in the past and are not your friend. I have never waived from my position of being against the MOU. Instead, to people shutting you down at every turn Im giving them something to think about. Now if I have articulated something that has offended you to be so defensive please elaborate. But last I checked I live in the United States and Im entitled to my opinion even if they dont align with yours. Instead of acting like a whiny child offer something concrete to the conversation.
And just fyi..it’s you’re upset..and in your previous post..it’s buy more time..we all make typos..but come on man.
09-03-2020 | 04:51 PM
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From: CRJ F/O
All I see here is that now you realize it will negatively, directly and immediately affect your life..you’re all of a sudden open to a TEMPORARY situation which is what literally every person has been saying the whole time. Before that..to the curb with the others? You might not keep your line? It might make your commute harder? Awww.. how disgusting. The CRJ guys are the most senior?! Who knew!! Duuuh
You will probably still vote it down? So that makes you a union rep🤔
You will probably still vote it down? So that makes you a union rep🤔
09-03-2020 | 04:55 PM
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Dont know why your upset with me. All I did was help your argument. My position is I dont trust JO or the union. When you have been here long enough you know you cant. The union had stabbed us in the back several times in the past and are not your friend. I have never waived from my position of being against the MOU. Instead, to people shutting you down at every turn Im giving them something to think about. Now if I have articulated something that has offended you to be so defensive please elaborate. But last I checked I live in the United States and Im entitled to my opinion even if they dont align with yours. Instead of acting like a whiny child offer something concrete to the conversation.
09-03-2020 | 04:59 PM
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What is your problem? Being downgraded, losing lines, bad commutes and everything else involved in this are legitimate concerns. When a CRJ captain can’t hold his seat anymore and bids over the the 175 are you going to have a problem with too? This doesn’t just effect the junior F/Os it impacts everyone but the most senior.
09-03-2020 | 05:00 PM
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09-03-2020 | 05:04 PM
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Try looking at what you said to me the other day. About how uneducated I am on history..my opinion is laughable and blah blah..I won’t bother to go on. Do I sound like I’m pro union to you somehow? Because I’m sure not right now! And you tell me I’m talking out of two sides of my face? You didn’t answer about voting it down..you felt the need to tell me I need to educate myself how things work..last I checked..we don’t get a vote on a temporary MOU..
And just fyi..it’s you’re upset..and in your previous post..it’s buy more time..we all make typos..but come on man.
And just fyi..it’s you’re upset..and in your previous post..it’s buy more time..we all make typos..but come on man.
Like I said in my post then I dont trust the union and dont want to create a bridge between temporary and premanent. Bc I dont know about you but I have yet to get a copy of the full MOU or its language. Like I said if we could have protection in the MOU against things like downgrades or a further extension then I would be more inclined to side with you. But I know JO and our union reps and the moment its signed they will have us by the balls. Honestly 30 hrs of pay is not worth the fallout but I need guarantees before I can get there mentally.
09-03-2020 | 05:05 PM
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The point..not problem..is that everyone is dead set against a deal until they realize it directly affects THEIR life. The point is..whining about losing a line or having a harder commute when other people are losing their jobs..health insurance..house?..kinda hard to feel sorry them.
09-03-2020 | 05:08 PM
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The point..not problem..is that everyone is dead set against a deal until they realize it directly affects THEIR life. The point is..whining about losing a line or having a harder commute when other people are losing their jobs..health insurance..house?..kinda hard to feel sorry them.
09-03-2020 | 05:09 PM
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I dont believe I every called you uneducated, but said look back on the history of concessions. And when I said you were talking out of both sides of your mouth I was referring to a pivot you made in a argument with someone else on here. But thats neither here, nor there.
Like I said in my post then I dont trust the union and dont want to create a bridge between temporary and premanent. Bc I dont know about you but I have yet to get a copy of the full MOU or its language. Like I said if we could have protection in the MOU against things like downgrades or a further extension then I would be more inclined to side with you. But I know JO and our union reps and the moment its signed they will have us by the balls. Honestly 30 hrs of pay is not worth the fallout but I need guarantees before I can get there mentally.
Like I said in my post then I dont trust the union and dont want to create a bridge between temporary and premanent. Bc I dont know about you but I have yet to get a copy of the full MOU or its language. Like I said if we could have protection in the MOU against things like downgrades or a further extension then I would be more inclined to side with you. But I know JO and our union reps and the moment its signed they will have us by the balls. Honestly 30 hrs of pay is not worth the fallout but I need guarantees before I can get there mentally.
09-03-2020 | 05:11 PM
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I dont believe I every called you uneducated, but said look back on the history of concessions. And when I said you were talking out of both sides of your mouth I was referring to a pivot you made in a argument with someone else on here. But thats neither here, nor there.
Like I said in my post then I dont trust the union and dont want to create a bridge between temporary and premanent. Bc I dont know about you but I have yet to get a copy of the full MOU or its language. Like I said if we could have protection in the MOU against things like downgrades or a further extension then I would be more inclined to side with you. But I know JO and our union reps and the moment its signed they will have us by the balls. Honestly 30 hrs of pay is not worth the fallout but I need guarantees before I can get there mentally.
Like I said in my post then I dont trust the union and dont want to create a bridge between temporary and premanent. Bc I dont know about you but I have yet to get a copy of the full MOU or its language. Like I said if we could have protection in the MOU against things like downgrades or a further extension then I would be more inclined to side with you. But I know JO and our union reps and the moment its signed they will have us by the balls. Honestly 30 hrs of pay is not worth the fallout but I need guarantees before I can get there mentally.
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