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Old 02-04-2016 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by brigadeaviator
Ridiculous. Why make commuting for anyone harder than it needs to be? Like it was said before, new hires need guidance, your time and effort is better spent to educate (chances are this is their first 121 job). New hires aren't the problem, the real problem are the people who voted YES for our last failed TA. I remember people ranting how they were going to deny a JS for people who voted yes... I want to know where that list is.
It was mostly union guys, some training dept guys, and senior company guys like KA who voted yes...probably guys who don't commute or ever have a need to ride in the JS. Ironic, all the A listers I talked to about the contract were yes voters. Neither list seems to get much attention though. Although an AA (LUS) CA looked in his scab book at the A list to make sure I wasn't on it when I JS once, so I guess some care.
Old 02-05-2016 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by brigadeaviator
Ridiculous. Why make commuting for anyone harder than it needs to be? Like it was said before, new hires need guidance, your time and effort is better spent to educate (chances are this is their first 121 job). New hires aren't the problem, the real problem are the people who voted YES for our last failed TA. I remember people ranting how they were going to deny a JS for people who voted yes... I want to know where that list is.
That "list" and argument was started by good ole Flaps...Its sad that his only recourse is to deny someone HIS Jumpseat.
I have an idea...redirect all of your disgust for the company and the union to actually doing something. Either volunteer for ALPA and make a change or quit Mesa and go somewhere else. Your constant threats about denying Jumpseat and voting out ALPA are getting tired.
And ScottyDo...just don't.
Old 02-05-2016 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
It was mostly union guys, some training dept guys, and senior company guys like KA who voted yes...probably guys who don't commute or ever have a need to ride in the JS. Ironic, all the A listers I talked to about the contract were yes voters. Neither list seems to get much attention though. Although an AA (LUS) CA looked in his scab book at the A list to make sure I wasn't on it when I JS once, so I guess some care.
And no one has denied flying with an A Lister or denied the Jumpseat to them either.
Old 02-05-2016 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
And no one has denied flying with an A Lister or denied the Jumpseat to them either.
Yeah that's what I'm getting at...other than a few Internet personalities there aren't a whole lot of people who seem to care, and certainly none that act it out in person.
Old 02-05-2016 | 06:59 AM
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I'm surprised no one has chimed in with the rumor section of the flight ops newsletter about the possibility of 5 airplanes going from DFW to PHX.
Old 02-05-2016 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by squawkoff
I'm surprised no one has chimed in with the rumor section of the flight ops newsletter about the possibility of 5 airplanes going from DFW to PHX.
Steve T writing about JO's speculation of what might happen if an AA consideration about ENY E175s that was mentioned in an article comes to fruition seems like a waste of keyboard strokes. Too many variables.
Old 02-05-2016 | 07:35 AM
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The A-Listers did a terrible disservice to everyone else here then and now, but it's done. Any reaction now wouldn't accomplish anything and be solely punitive. That being said, I'd be curious to offhandedly bring up Freedom in the cockpit with one of them and see what they say.
Old 02-05-2016 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon

That "list" and argument was started by good ole Flaps...Its sad that his only recourse is to deny someone HIS Jumpseat.
I have an idea...redirect all of your disgust for the company and the union to actually doing something. Either volunteer for ALPA and make a change or quit Mesa and go somewhere else. Your constant threats about denying Jumpseat and voting out ALPA are getting tired.
And ScottyDo...just don't.
I have zero disgust for the company/management--they're doing exactly what any rational profit-seeking entity is supposed to do.

I'm perfectly happy flying the line here, and airing my occasional ideas/thoughts/frustrations on the internet here--Mesa has treated me well.

There's a good possibility I'll run for a union position next month--careful whatcha wish for!!!
Old 02-05-2016 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon

That "list" and argument was started by good ole Flaps...Its sad that his only recourse is to deny someone HIS Jumpseat.
I have an idea...redirect all of your disgust for the company and the union to actually doing something. Either volunteer for ALPA and make a change or quit Mesa and go somewhere else. Your constant threats about denying Jumpseat and voting out ALPA are getting tired.
And ScottyDo...just don't.
Hey if you saw a few pages back we are mailing you and your fellow MEC guys some testsasterone pills. I consider that's as doing something.
Old 02-05-2016 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Hey if you saw a few pages back we are mailing you and your fellow MEC guys some testsasterone pills. I consider that's as doing something.
FYI the guy you are trying to rag on in this post volunteered for a small job with the union after the TA was voted down to try to help turn things around in there. You are really beginning to show your intelligence (or lack thereof) on here. You direct negativity to the wrong people. Also, you should request a refund for your "batchelors" degrees. I find it amusing you still overpower autocorrect with your misspellings, more emboldened above. You should probably take a month off of the forums. Maybe just lurk and read. You add nothing of substance, stir the pot, and are generally wrong about most things you post about. Your inexperience in this industry and life shows through your posts.
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