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02-04-2016 | 05:34 PM
#4221
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Most of the time, the new hire doesn't know better anyways. Most of them, especially those with no 121 experience, don't know how a union works or that the company can't just give them things outside the CBA. I'd bet 100% of them don't the ins and outs of the contract when they are issued the iPad in the first place. So, when they are on the jumpseat, give them a little union education and tell them why its wrong, then file a grievance. In the end, it is the company that is wrong. Everyone should be getting their own iPad as paid by the company.
02-04-2016 | 06:17 PM
#4222
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From: CRJ FO
I guess you missed the part about me saying whining about a CA's decision to give or deny the jumpseat online does nothing?
02-04-2016 | 07:27 PM
#4223
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I respectfully said "thanks you guys have a nice trip" because it's his absolute right to refuse me a jumpseat for any reason (or no reason at all).
Jumpseating is a courtesy not a privilege.
02-04-2016 | 07:39 PM
#4224
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I once had a TransStates Captain deny me the jumpseat for a 2 hour flight very early in the morning. He was a bigger guy, and that cockpit is pretty tight, and he was pretty much like "sorry I don't want anyone up here right now."
I respectfully said "thanks you guys have a nice trip" because it's his absolute right to refuse me a jumpseat for any reason (or no reason at all).
Jumpseating is a courtesy not a privilege.
I respectfully said "thanks you guys have a nice trip" because it's his absolute right to refuse me a jumpseat for any reason (or no reason at all).
Jumpseating is a courtesy not a privilege.
02-04-2016 | 08:02 PM
#4225
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From: CRJ FO
That could easily start a jumpseat war. I don't think the JS committee would be very happy about that. While it is the captain's discretion, there should be a pretty damn good reason to deny someone. But if it's available, the jumpseater abides by all JS protocol and asks politely if it's okay to catch a ride, if captains willy nilly just deny the JS, that would be very bad for this industry, hence why JS committees exist.
02-04-2016 | 08:24 PM
#4226
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I coulda sworn your boy was referencing a trans states captain denying him a jumpseat just because. Please read before you post, it'll save you some face and credibility. In this case, look one post higher to the one I quoted and actually read it.
02-04-2016 | 08:32 PM
#4227
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From: CRJ FO
02-04-2016 | 08:40 PM
#4228
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From: 175 Left
I wouldn't let flaps on my jumpseat either.....
02-04-2016 | 08:42 PM
#4229
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Bro, did you even read how this all started? It started with flaps saying he was going to start denying the jumpseat to new hires. Yea he told a random story about a trans states guy to back up what I was saying that the jumpseat is a privilege not a right. Going back to the original post of how this talk of jumpseat began. So i'll save you some face and credibility and recommend you go back a few pages.
02-04-2016 | 08:44 PM
#4230
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From: 737 FO
So now Mesa is having a jumpseat war with.....Mesa? This should be fun.
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