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Old 02-09-2016 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Avflyer76
I'm curious about the contract.
I can't seem to find anything.
Is it expired?
Is there a TA?
Thinking of the future here.
What am I accepting over the next 2-5 years?
Knock yourself out: http://www.mesapilots.com/documents/contract.pdf

Contracts don't expire, they become amendable. It's a real b tch.

Nope.

Great question.
Old 02-09-2016 | 08:20 PM
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Fact - I know a June hire with over 350 today. And a 17-month pilot with over 900. Reckon it all depends on how much one wants to sit at home.

And I think a few pages back on this very thread, guys were off reserve in 2-3 months.

Originally Posted by Skyler02
I'm not sure why you think you can log hours any faster at Mesa than at most other regionals. Many other regionals are flying their pilots a lot more than Mesa right out of training.

Fact - Summer 2015 Mesa new hires have less than 200 hours logged. And most won't see a line for at least a few more months.
Old 02-09-2016 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
There are maybe 2 or 3 shops with long reserve. Every other place is flying new hires to their hearts content. XJet is voting on an extension raising first year pay to 37/40. AWAC is 28 with one of the better overall contracts out there. Envoy and PSA have flow (YMMV). All of the places you listed have much better TOTAL compensation packages/contracts than Mesa.
Ok, I totally get what you're saying and don't disagree; but XJT and Air Wisky? Two airlines that probably won't be around in 3 years? Come on.....
Old 02-09-2016 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
And I think a few pages back on this very thread, guys were off reserve in 2-3 months.
Not true. I'm personally going on 10 months of reserve right now with the exception of December, FWIW.
Old 02-09-2016 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Ok, I totally get what you're saying and don't disagree; but XJT and Air Wisky? Two airlines that probably won't be around in 3 years? Come on.....
I know, I know. These were the shops he gave as examples. Would not recommend either right now.
Old 02-09-2016 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FrequentFly3r
Not true. I'm personally going on 10 months of reserve right now with the exception of December, FWIW.
You can't sway him with facts. Bob "knows" a guy. Smh.
Old 02-09-2016 | 09:39 PM
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And for all YOU know, he has chosen to be on reserve. Some people do. Just because one guy disagrees with me and makes you happy does not make it the norm for everyone. But hey, I only know what I read here, so my info is only as accurate as people post it.

Originally Posted by word302
You can't sway him with facts. Bob "knows" a guy. Smh.
Old 02-10-2016 | 03:04 AM
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It's probably the difference between bases. The DFW guys on reserve don't seem to have been flying as much as the IAH reserve pilots.
Old 02-10-2016 | 03:07 AM
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[QUOTE=FrequentFly3r;2065912]Not true. I'm personally going on 10 months of reserve right now with the exception of December, FWIW.[/QUOTE

Your doing it wrong. Sept 2015 hires have lines on the Ejet.
Old 02-10-2016 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
Fact - I know a June hire with over 350 today. And a 17-month pilot with over 900. Reckon it all depends on how much one wants to sit at home.

And I think a few pages back on this very thread, guys were off reserve in 2-3 months.
That's great for that guy that you know. I love to hear that it's working out for someone. That is not the norm. Everyone's mileage will vary but the majority of reserves are not "sitting at home" not flying by "choice". They are commuting in to base to sit in the crew room/crash pad for 4-5-6 days and are not flying. They are calling scheduling begging for trips. They are logging maybe 20-30/hrs per month. And reserve is most certainly NOT just a few months. Last summer's new hires are still on reserve and will be for a while. That is for IAD and DFW. And we all know that PHX is much, much longer.

As you know, this industry is changing drastically by the day. The experience of a pilot hired 17 months ago is not going to be the experience of someone hired today.

Also, not everyone gets the EJet, so again, each person's mileage will vary.

Just putting real data out there so people can base their life decisions on what is actually happening. Realistic expectations save a lot of frustration. I hope it helps those making those decisions.

Last edited by Skyler02; 02-10-2016 at 04:09 AM.
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